Yes I like my signature as well. I got it from my brother, who I believe got it from Dr Seuss. As of now I am just adding and subtracting from the x and y coordinates. When I thought about how to do it that is the only way i came up with. I will keep trying it this way until I get it, maybe after I'll try it the other way. How would you suggest doing the other way? Let me know so I can start to think about it. Good bye.