New AI contest: sign up

Sang-drax · 05-27-2005, 07:51 AM

OK, the semester is almost finished (for me at least) and it'd be fun having a new AI contest.

Only sign up here if you intend to submit anything! It is possible to sign up for more than one contest, but only the contest with the highest number of participants will actually be held (for now). As PJ pointed out, othello would probably be too similar to the last contest, even though it is a good game for these types of contests.

So, let's see if there are enough participants!

PJYelton · 05-27-2005, 09:11 AM

I voted just blackjack since I know I would definately submit that. The other two I can't guarantee although I probably would.

itsme86 · 05-27-2005, 09:24 AM

Will the contest be available to us C-only freaks?

Darryl · 05-27-2005, 09:54 AM

I will definitely do the holdem (if it wins), I am not really motivated to do Blackjack, because basically the only "winning" strategy is card counting/perfect play which is fairly simple to implement. I may still submit an entry though if it wins.

Quantum1024 · 05-27-2005, 10:13 AM

What would the format of an entry be? would we create a callback function wich the dealer sends messages too?

PJYelton · 05-27-2005, 10:31 AM

>>I am not really motivated to do Blackjack, because basically the only "winning" strategy is card counting/perfect play which is fairly simple to implement<<

Well not necessarily. True, card counting/perfect play is the safest way to win the most money at Vegas in the long run, but it isn't necessarily the best strategy to beat out a group of other players over a period of x hands. I'm assuming our AI's will be told how much money the other bots have and can thus vary our play depending on if we have to catch up or hold on to a lead. Also varies depending on how many hands are left.

Sang-drax · 05-27-2005, 10:54 AM

Yes, if a player is behind with only a few hands left, it'll have to play more aggressively to have a chance of winning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsme86

Will the contest be available to us C-only freaks?

The last connect four contest didn't require much knowledge of C++. C-only freaks will probably be able to participate, although I'll probably use some C++ in it.

Quote:

What would the format of an entry be? would we create a callback function wich the dealer sends messages too?

Sending messages is one possibility. Another is to have the entire game state in a structure which is passed to the AI function (like in the last tournament).

The Brain · 05-27-2005, 08:27 PM

I am currently working on texas holdem.

OH_HRVAT · 05-31-2005, 09:59 AM

for the Texas Holdem...no pun intended

Sang-drax · 06-02-2005, 07:21 AM

We didn't have that many participants.
Perhaps we should put this contest on hold for a while.

OH_HRVAT · 06-02-2005, 08:33 AM

I think 10 would be about the perfect number, if 10 ( or less ) people were signed up for holdem, we could have all 10 bots start out a table together...and play till one is left, that is standard for a holdem tourney.

I think that would be more challenging as well, to take into account position at the table when it comes to betting and bluffing...as opposed to just playing one player...

PJYelton · 06-02-2005, 10:11 AM

IF everyone who said they would send an entry actually does then I would think five plus maybe an extra one or two who didn't answer the poll would be an acceptable amount of participants for either game. Of course, thats a big IF.

Unless some of the people here promote on other boards I doubt we'd ever get more than that.

Togra · 06-02-2005, 11:35 AM

I might participate in an AI contest, but probably not if it's about card games (don't know much of them, don't like them). Sorry!

OH_HRVAT · 06-03-2005, 09:31 AM

Dobro Jutro!

I agree...5-6 would work fine. actually, thinking about it, maybe we should hope that that is all that signs up for this, if it runs smooth, then start advertising on other boards

manofsteel972 · 06-04-2005, 07:37 PM

Well I am definitely going to participate regardless of which game.

View Poll Results: You can sign up for these contests:
Black Jack	8	50.00%
Texas hold'em	7	43.75%
Yahtzee	2	12.50%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

05-27-2005, 07:51 AM	#1
Sang-drax and the hat of marbles Join Date: May 2002 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 2,038	New AI contest: sign up OK, the semester is almost finished (for me at least) and it'd be fun having a new AI contest. Only sign up here if you intend to submit anything! It is possible to sign up for more than one contest, but only the contest with the highest number of participants will actually be held (for now). As PJ pointed out, othello would probably be too similar to the last contest, even though it is a good game for these types of contests. So, let's see if there are enough participants! Last edited by Sang-drax; 05-27-2005 at 07:56 AM.
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05-27-2005, 09:11 AM	#2
PJYelton Cheesy Poofs! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boulder Posts: 1,728	I voted just blackjack since I know I would definately submit that. The other two I can't guarantee although I probably would.
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05-27-2005, 09:24 AM	#3
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05-27-2005, 09:54 AM	#4
Darryl Tropical Coder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 503	I will definitely do the holdem (if it wins), I am not really motivated to do Blackjack, because basically the only "winning" strategy is card counting/perfect play which is fairly simple to implement. I may still submit an entry though if it wins.
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05-27-2005, 10:13 AM	#5
Quantum1024 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 847	What would the format of an entry be? would we create a callback function wich the dealer sends messages too?
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05-27-2005, 10:31 AM	#6
PJYelton Cheesy Poofs! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boulder Posts: 1,728	>>I am not really motivated to do Blackjack, because basically the only "winning" strategy is card counting/perfect play which is fairly simple to implement<< Well not necessarily. True, card counting/perfect play is the safest way to win the most money at Vegas in the long run, but it isn't necessarily the best strategy to beat out a group of other players over a period of x hands. I'm assuming our AI's will be told how much money the other bots have and can thus vary our play depending on if we have to catch up or hold on to a lead. Also varies depending on how many hands are left.
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05-27-2005, 08:27 PM	#8
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05-31-2005, 09:59 AM	#9
OH_HRVAT Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8	IM "ALL IN" for the Texas Holdem...no pun intended
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06-02-2005, 07:21 AM	#10
Sang-drax and the hat of marbles Join Date: May 2002 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 2,038	We didn't have that many participants. Perhaps we should put this contest on hold for a while. __________________ Last edited by Sang-drax : Tomorrow at 02:21 AM. Reason: Time travelling
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06-02-2005, 08:33 AM	#11
OH_HRVAT Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8	I think 10 would be about the perfect number, if 10 ( or less ) people were signed up for holdem, we could have all 10 bots start out a table together...and play till one is left, that is standard for a holdem tourney. I think that would be more challenging as well, to take into account position at the table when it comes to betting and bluffing...as opposed to just playing one player...
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06-02-2005, 10:11 AM	#12
PJYelton Cheesy Poofs! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boulder Posts: 1,728	IF everyone who said they would send an entry actually does then I would think five plus maybe an extra one or two who didn't answer the poll would be an acceptable amount of participants for either game. Of course, thats a big IF. Unless some of the people here promote on other boards I doubt we'd ever get more than that.
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06-02-2005, 11:35 AM	#13
Togra Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 38	I might participate in an AI contest, but probably not if it's about card games (don't know much of them, don't like them). Sorry!
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06-03-2005, 09:31 AM	#14
OH_HRVAT Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8	Dobro Jutro! I agree...5-6 would work fine. actually, thinking about it, maybe we should hope that that is all that signs up for this, if it runs smooth, then start advertising on other boards
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06-04-2005, 07:37 PM	#15
manofsteel972 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 317	Well I am definitely going to participate regardless of which game. __________________ "Knowledge is proud that she knows so much; Wisdom is humble that she knows no more." -- Cowper Operating Systems=Slackware Linux 9.1,Windows 98/Xp Compilers=gcc 3.2.3, Visual C++ 6.0, DevC++(Mingw) You may teach a person from now until doom's day, but that person will only know what he learns himself. Now I know what doesn't work. A problem is understood by solving it, not by pondering it. For a bit of humor check out xkcd web comic http://xkcd.com/235/
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