thx i will give some of those options a try, i was really trying to stay away from the getpixel option because it would take a while (in computer time) to actually get the images and then get alll the pixels and although i do not need streaming media, i do need it to be a little faster than get one image and scan all pixels then process and hope that you do not need another image too soon kinda thing.
i will let you know how it turns out and post my source when i get it but today i have to do some family stuff
happy forth and god bless
