Originally Posted by Universal Declaration of Human RightsOriginally Posted by Universal Declaration of Human RightsCorrect them if the UN is wrong.Originally Posted by Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Originally Posted by Universal Declaration of Human RightsOriginally Posted by Universal Declaration of Human RightsCorrect them if the UN is wrong.Originally Posted by Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Last edited by maxorator; 11-30-2007 at 08:36 AM.
"The Internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore
At least... it's not called that.I don't think even animals can be sacrificed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shechita
Unfortunately maxtorator not everyone agrees with the UN as you see on the news so often. Imagine the outcry if the cleric Abu Hamza were permitted on these grounds to continue his 'teaching'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ham...asri#Preaching
There is always a limit and has to be else anyone could incite hatred citing it as being within his/her human rights.
Last edited by Pendragon; 11-30-2007 at 08:42 AM.
If I get it right these may not be used against these rights. That Abu Hamza seems to try to destruct the human rights, so how can they apply to him then?Originally Posted by Universal Declaration of Human Rights
"The Internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore
Looks like some in the Sudan are now calling for her execution.
Do the kids get punished for coming up with the name?
"Owners of dogs will have noticed that, if you provide them with food and water and shelter and affection, they will think you are god. Whereas owners of cats are compelled to realize that, if you provide them with food and water and shelter and affection, they draw the conclusion that they are gods."
-Christopher Hitchens
...and, as per usual, things escalate yet further.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7121025.stm
Touchy subject. All he's doing is talking. He's expressing his opinion, whatever the interpretation of his teaching, it is not, directly at least, his doing.That Abu Hamza seems to try to destruct the human rights, so how can they apply to him then?
Last edited by Pendragon; 11-30-2007 at 08:53 AM.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7119391.stm
Some more thoughts on the matter.
The Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams said he could not "see any justification" for the sentence, calling it an "absurdly disproportionate response" to a "minor cultural faux pas".
Last edited by Pendragon; 11-30-2007 at 09:00 AM.
I do believe the laws themselves are backwards. Basing modern lawn on a book over a thousand years old invites almost militaristic enforcement of them.
I think a lot of the problem relates to how one interprets what is in said book... not so much what is actually written in it.
This applies to many books. According to certain South Africans, the bible says that people of "non-white" origin are less valued than white ones. It's not exactly the message you get when you speak to OTHER Christians. I beleive Ku Klux Klan in America has been known to "find strength" in the bible too.
If you have a big enough amount of text, and cut excerpts out, you can come to almost any conclusion, I think.
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Interesting considering where the book is supposed to have originated.the bible says that people of "non-white" origin are less valued than white ones.
It reminds me of a quote from a film:
"You're painting Jesus white... are you sure he was white?"
"Of course he's white! *whisper* sometimes I wonder if he's mentally handicapped as well"
It's from a not-very-serious film but I think illustrates the attitude of some christians.
Haha. Yes, and of course, I'm pretty sure that Jesus's non-violent approach doesn't quite match the Apartheid principles - but all of this is down to interpreting, and very often, cutting small pieces out of a big context - and you don't always get the full picture, if you use a stamp-sized view of the world.
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hmm... 15 days imprisonment? I thought it would be smarter to make some cash by imposing a hefty fine then deporting Mrs Gibbons right away. Also, they would not have to spend resources keeping her in prison, meeting with representatives from Britain and dealing with protests over the 15 days.
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Yet even in our own fair country in these supposed enlightened times... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/7120699.stm
While I don't share Sudan's view of using religious law in such a way I don't see what the problem is. The teacher should have known what the country's laws were before going there. If she was unwilling to follow the laws then she shouldn't have gone. If she was unaware of the laws then that just shows poor planning.
15 days sounds about right for a minor offense.