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    Possible to make Money outa Poker?

    Was wondering...

    Is is possible to make money from playing on-line poker? Could I not bring some programming skills to bear to give me an edge?

    Any thoughts...
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    No, you can't. They have protections on those sorts of things. You also have to sign various agreements when you enter money torneys that could get you in some legal trouble if you were caught. By the way, botting for malicious purposes are against forum rules, so I'd rather not get into this discussion.
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    >botting for malicious purposes are against forum rules

    WTF?


    Please don't accuse me of acting with malicious purposes. I think you misunderstood my post.


    >so I'd rather not get into this discussion.

    So why reply?
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    If you live in the US, online poker is illegal right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCow257
    If you live in the US, online poker is illegal right?
    No. I play online poker all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Govtcheez
    No. I play online poker all the time.
    Gambling online is currently illegal according to the federal government. They say it violates some law against taking bets over the telephone lines. This is why all of the legit gambling sites are not based in the US.

    Though I wouldn't be worried about them busting down your door any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCow257
    If you live in the US, online poker is illegal right?
    What!? That was unexpected! Do you live in the US? Hmm, I guess I'd rather believe Govt on this one.

    I think it would be possible to make money using bots in online poker, but as has been said, it's not allowed. But the only(?) way to protect themselves against that would be to have the players answer questions from time to time, so I guess it's feasible.
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    >If you live in the US, online poker is illegal right?

    Ahhh. I see.

    I don't live in the US. Here it is popular. Daily Newspapers are running campaigns to get people to play on-line poker.

    Thought it would be a good general topic. You know, harmless things could be said like, "...but there is no real leverage in working out the stats for this or that", "or Black Jack would be better than Poker". Yadda yadda.

    However, I'm getting a bad feeling. Forget it in that case.
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    If you're implying that your programming skill would give you an edge in online poker in anyway besides writing a program to play the poker for you, then no it won't. All the top players on the poker tours are mathematicians, accountants, and any other career you can think of that has to do with cramming numbers and odds. It's simply required to be at the top. There's no edge there.

    If you want to be a good poker player, you need quick thinking, a straight face, and most importantly, patience.

    Also, the legality issues in the US with Online Gambling is still in the grey area, right now. I don't quite think they can arrest you for it.
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    >besides writing a program to play the poker for you, then no it won't

    Yeh that's what I had in mind. Cos I'm crap at card games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davros
    >besides writing a program to play the poker for you, then no it won't

    Yeh that's what I had in mind. Cos I'm crap at card games.
    Think it hasn't been done 1000s of times? Google the phrase "Poker Bots" they've been made, used, and banned... alot.
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    That was my original thinking... a little app which flashes "FOLD" or "GO FOR IT". I never mentioned anything about bots.
    Yes you did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davros
    >besides writing a program to play the poker for you, then no it won't

    Yeh that's what I had in mind. Cos I'm crap at card games.

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    Actually I thought Sly was the one who assumed that he meant bots, but actually he just said using programming skills to advantage. Anyway there are probably situations where the odds are good but it still might not be a good idea to call. Take the case of a 51% (or even 60%) advantage, but you have to go all-in to get it. And is the program going to tell you when to raise? Is it going to tell you that a player has folded every time he's been raised, and so you should raise to figure out where he's at (because if he calls you're probably busted, and most of the time you figure to win anyway because he's going to fold)? There's so much to this (and I suck at poker), that I really doubt that an odds program is going to help much. You can memorize the odds without much difficulty...but I bet that you couldn't write a program that plays poker well unless you're a killer poker player anyway. And if you're a killer poker player, why do you need the program? The answer probably is that you want it to be a bot, that will log on to many poker servers at once, so you can maximize the number of hands played per hour.
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    >If you want to be a good poker player, you need quick thinking, a straight face, and most importantly, patience.

    LOL! Why a straight face? On-line remember?


    >Think it hasn't been done 1000s of times?

    Wot? You mean I'm not the first to think of it. Dammn!

    Seriously though, if I'd have thought I'd come up with a sure fire way to make millions, I wouldn't have posted it here.

    Thanks for replying SlyMaelstrom. Sorry for any misunderstanding earlier.
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    >. But the only(?) way to protect themselves against that would be to have the players answer questions from time to time, so I guess it's feasible.

    Actaully they monitor the activities and choices of players over time and have apps that detect possible bots. The games department at the University of Alberta does research on poker playing I remember this being mentioned in a lecture once.

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