Thread: What USA lost and gain from the WAR against Iraq?

Where have these ppl been since 9/11 -- their feelings have never changed...

Where have they been? In their homes, living their lives. Their feelings haven't changed? The [neutral] reports i've read, and the muslims i've spoken to indicate the opposite.

Prior to 9/11 despite the Israel-Palestine conflict there was a certain amount of pro-Western feelings among many of the youth of the Middle-East, BUT post 9/11 US actions and rhetoric have been interpretted by many as AN ATTACK ON ISLAM, the implications of that interpretation cannot be stressed enough.

I am willing to BET MONEY that u are wrong... u should read about those from jordan, syria, and sudan who came to iraq to fight a jihad against the US - their dream - they lost big and those who survived are actually begging the iraqi populace for money to GO HOME...

I would take that bet, how much do you actually understand of the mindset involved here? How many muslims have you actually spoken to?

Plenty of people came to fight jihad against the US, why do you think that is? The whole point of jihad (in this context) is fighting a holy war against the attackers of Islam.

Sure they lost, you think that's going to stop more signing up?

In fact much of their anger has been deflected to their own mullaz who sent them with the promise of victory -- read about the same situation of the paki's who survived and walked home from afghanistan

If by "much" then you mean "a little" then i would agree.

the ppl who committed 9/11 were well todo suadi's who traveled the world before coming to the US to commit their act. The poor ppl of repressed countries and now the free ppl of iraq will not be signing up for bin laden's cuase as they have much more important things to concentrate on... "

Are you honestly trying to say that poor people are less likely to become terrorists than rich people!?

Poor people with a low quality of life have relatively little to lose and are also far more likely to be extremist, "Remove some of the cursed enemy, aid your people and your religion and you get an instant trip to Nirvana", that's pretty damn enticing if you have a .......... life.

You think the suicide bombers in Palestine are rich? You think the people who came over to fight Jihad against the US in Iraq and in Afghanistan were rich (no, they weren't terrorists but they illustrate that there are plenty of poor people out there willing to risk their lives fighting the US).

today a large number of those ppl are dead or imprisoned in the US or elsewhere -- and the others are on the run being pursued by the US. The ppl who carry out the 9/11's of the world are few and far between and most come from places of unchecked militancy -- like Indonesia or Phillipines is where the next attackers will probably come from. Doing nothing is what breedz these terrorists.

Continuing the staus quo might well breed terrorists, but then that's not doing 'nothing', that's doing a whole lot of things that ........ off the muslim community.

The more indiscriminant force used in retaliation against fundamentalist terrorists, the more people sign up to the terrorist cause, the more the terrorism escalates: look at the last 50 years in Israel, has force worked there?

Now having said all that, I believe that whether or not the US will gain from the invasion of Iraq is far from clear, whilst i certainly do not believe it will decrease the number of terrorists or 'would-be' terrorists out there, it 'may' have prevented terrorist organisations getting hold of the technology required to carry out the most devastating attacks.

And if it precipitates a serious attempt by the US to solve the Palestine-Israel conflict it could have a large postive effect on the anti-US feelings in the Middle East.