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    Question Generel Vista Questions?

    I'm am new to cprogramming.com but I have been studying c++ for about one year. I have some questions mostly about everthing based around Windows Vista. Some of the questions may seem very stupid, I give you fair warning.

    1. Will windows Vista API applications only run on .net framework (winfx).

    2. (If they exist) Were are the windows vista sdk's located.

    3. I have the visual c++ 2005 .net express compiler. Can this compiler create windows vista API based programmes.

    4. I have the book "Introducing Microsoft WinFX: The Application Programming Interface for the Next Generation of Microsoft Windows" published 2004 . Is this a book of good reference for vista or is there a better one that exists .

    5. Are .net applications very unefficient (both .net framework programs I have used run very poor on resources)
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    1. Most certainly.
    2. www.msdn.com if they have been released , which if you are a subscriber...it has been released.
    3. Yes
    4. Dunno.
    5. Well...yes b/c of the memory management scheme employed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba
    1. Most certainly.
    2. www.msdn.com if they have been released , which if you are a subscriber...it has been released.
    3. Yes
    4. Dunno.
    5. Well...yes b/c of the memory management scheme employed.
    Wait... are you saying that the only API to be available on Vista is through .NET ?
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    Wait... are you saying that the only API to be available on Vista is through .NET ?
    No, the existing Windows API that has been around since the beginning of Windows will still be there. If this wasn't the case, then 99% of the Windows applications in existence would have to be rewritten.

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    True, but you never know how crazy MS can get
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    Devil panther you do have a point.... but I doubt that they will go that far. They are trying to push ".net framework" alot though so how nows... Does anyone have a idea of a book that would be good reference for the API programming in vista....

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    Quote Originally Posted by code2d
    Devil panther you do have a point.... but I doubt that they will go that far. They are trying to push ".net framework" alot though so how nows... Does anyone have a idea of a book that would be good reference for the API programming in vista....
    I believe it's alittle too early for a book.
    But I would love to see one.
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    I believe that vista runs now of ".net framework 3" and they have inproved "options" restrictions for the admin.... The new api looks great though!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by code2d
    I believe that vista runs now of ".net framework 3" and they have inproved "options" restrictions for the admin.... The new api looks great though!!
    Yeah... 6 years of developmet from transparent windows...
    But how can I use the new API controllers look in vista?
    What will happen to application that are using the XP API controllers look?
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    Quote Originally Posted by code2d
    5. Are .net applications very unefficient (both .net framework programs I have used run very poor on resources)
    If you're talking about runtime-wise efficient, they're not terribly slow, more than fast enough in just about every case I've seen, although generally on first or second time runs they seem noticably slow; the gain from using .NET in development time is what makes it worth it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_guy
    If you're talking about runtime-wise efficient, they're not terribly slow, more than fast enough in just about every case I've seen, although generally on first or second time runs they seem noticably slow; the gain from using .NET in development time is what makes it worth it though.
    Short development time, and a crappy product... A true Microsoft way!
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    Short development time, and a crappy product... A true Microsoft way!
    That is the simple truth.
    It seems that geeting documentation on vista will be useless until vista is out.
    According to the book I have vista will be using "xaml" which is similer to xml but for creating apps.
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    Short development time, and a crappy product... A true Microsoft way!
    If you're joking, then you suck at it.
    If you're serious and talking about .NET in reference to that, then I get the subtle feeling you have no idea what you're talking about, or you just choose not to think about what I said logically.
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