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    whats .net? I probably will go with what you suggest i am just getting curious.
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    For info on .NET try a search. I'm not being rude, but I remember that question being asked here > 2 years ago and there's not much I can add to the thousands of replies already made on this board

    Also, look at nvoigt's links at the top of the C# board (C# fully supports .NET)

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    Originally posted by ZakkWylde969
    1. Does it come with Visual C++ 6 or no?
    2. Also what do you guys think about Visual C++ 6 for Dummies?
    1. No, it does not.
    2. I replied to this question in this thread

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    Originally posted by Fordy
    Forget a book on VC++ at this point. Get a book on Winapi - Petzold's Programming Windows is about the best all rounder.

    I have books that concentrate on specialist facilities of VC++ (Programming Windows with MFC, Inside ATL), but they would put you at a disadvantage as you wouldnt have a good grasp on how windows apps work.
    I completely agree with the above IF you are going to get into windows programming (which I assume is the case, since you are posting this in the windows forum). Charles Petzold, Programming Windows 5th Ed is the best book for this, and it requires no C++.

    However, if you just want to learn C++, then go read the 1st half of the book I mentioned above. If you want to learn C++ just to program in windows, it is not required (unless you get into MFC, etc - but, in that case, you should learn the win32 API first, since it is based on top of it).

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    im going to get Beginning Visual C++ 6 by ivor hopkins to learn C++ then I will move on Programming Windows 5th Edition.

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    Originally posted by ZakkWylde969:
    what's .net?
    I would suggest anyone who is interested in windows programming to directly jump into .net programming.After learning C++,I migrated to VB.net for windows programming.Of course,its your choice about which language u wanna go with,VB,C# or C++.But the thing is,since all the latest versions of the above languages have been construted under the .net platform,MS is damn serious about .net and .net is here to stay.
    Long Live .net

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    Originally posted by Fordy
    VC++ doesnt comply too well to the standard (yet)
    Actually, some comparisons I've seen put Visual Studio .NET 2003 as the #1 most compliant compiler out there, better than GCC or CodeWarrior.

    compiler for creating typelibs and VC++ is the only c++ compiler that microsoft supports for building drivers (suprise suprise)).
    Also not true anymore; the latest DDK I have actually supplies its own command-line tools and supports nothing but those tools, not even VC++.

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    I spent all night looking up .net and I couldnt really find a good explanation for it. Is it like Visual C++ but it has more compilers and all with it.
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    >>Also not true anymore; the latest DDK I have actually supplies its own command-line tools and supports nothing but those tools, not even VC++.

    The version that I have does come with it's own build environment, but they need VC++ installed on the system work.
    I dont have the XP version, maybe the change has taken place there

    >>Actually, some comparisons I've seen put Visual Studio .NET 2003 as the #1 most compliant compiler out there, better than GCC or CodeWarrior.

    That shocks me! Do you have any links?

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    Originally posted by Fordy
    The version that I have does come with it's own build environment, but they need VC++ installed on the system work.
    I dont have the XP version, maybe the change has taken place there
    Yup, the newest version of the Win32 DDK (I ordered it in Feb) doesn't even allow you to develop drivers in Visual Studio.

    That shocks me! Do you have any links?
    Hmm, I can't find the comparison I really wanted, but the Boost tests show some aspects of this. Probably not the best comparison, but Visual Studio fares best of all compilers:

    http://boost.sourceforge.net/regression-logs/

    The most recent stats show VC++ 7.1 has correctly compiled 99% of the tests; CodeWarrior got 88% (and in fact can't do any of the boost regex code), the Win32 GCC got 95%.
    Last edited by Cat; 06-23-2003 at 10:05 AM.

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