Thread: Do I need more RAM ?

  1. #61
    Officially An Architect brewbuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Portland, OR
    Posts
    7,396
    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    No, it's not.
    Brewbuck explained that Windows can put pages in the swap file and keep them in memory and immediately toss out the pages from memory if it turns out more memory is needed. But that's not the case here.
    I was not trying to imply that Windows does this. I really don't know whether it does or not. But plenty of operating systems do.

    I am never surprised at reports of crappy Windows performance though.

  2. #62
    Devil's Advocate SlyMaelstrom's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Out of scope
    Posts
    4,079
    Quote Originally Posted by Wraithan View Post
    Neo1, depends, I have about 30GB of music that is my own, then another 10-15 of my girlfriend's music which is a lot more relaxing than mine so I listen to it at times, considering I don't make that much, it is a lot more cost effective to go over the net for my music than to try and anticipate what I want o listen to, since the only mp3 player I have is a little 4GB iPod.
    I don't get this... how do you listen to 45gb of music? What kind of quality are these songs ripped? At the standard sampling rate of 128kbps, one megabyte is about one minute of audio. That would mean you have a little over 46,000 minutes of audio which means if you listened to music on average of 5 hours a day, it would still take you 154 days or so to listen to all of it. Hell, 45gb is about 13,000 songs... I don't think I've heard that many songs in my life. I would have had to have heard 1.5 new songs every day of my life to have heard that many songs...

    I dunno... I'm not calling you a liar... I'm just suggesting maybe you should clean up your hard drive a bit. I have about 4GB of music on me at any given time, and after about 3GB of adding to my mp3 player, I was struggling to find songs that I would actually listen to.
    Last edited by SlyMaelstrom; 02-07-2008 at 08:15 PM.
    Sent from my iPad®

  3. #63
    pwns nooblars
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Portland, Or
    Posts
    1,094
    Well, I can make a list of what bands I have complete discographies or close to of, which is a a lot. In just metal I have 20 gigs of music, all of which I have heard many times, I listen to music the whole time I am at my computer, 8+hours a day, then when I am in the car (iPod), most of my music is ripped at 192kbps which is about 1.4mb per min, iTunes calculates my music as 24.9 days of music, which given my rate of listening (lets say 10 hours a day) would take 60 days to listen to my collection, which is a long time and I guess I don't listen to it all as often as I think I do, but still, every song in my list has been played at least twice (sometimes I order it by that and then listen while I game/read/program/what ever)

    Some of the songs I don't care for as much, but I would rather keep full albums on here than to slice and dice.

  4. #64
    Fountain of knowledge.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    794
    I have 1.25 gig of ram in mine, the original 256 meg + a 1 gig stick I bought when I had a
    rush of blood to the head once (also bought my 19" flatscreen monitor ),
    I typically have about 550 - 600 meg completely unused, but knowing the history of PC
    development no doubt that will be gobbled up someday.
    You will probably be fine with 256meg, unless you want to run a lot of stuff simulaneously. I
    imagine most of my 670meg system cache is laying idle at the moment.
    I mean, it's not that long ago my computer had a 2gig hard drive and I almost have as much
    as that in RAM now!!

    That 1 gig cost me about £80 when I bought it but I could get it from the same place for £40
    now and even cheaper on ebay, but then at least I can go back and threaten the staff if it does
    not work - well worth the extra £15 in todays money.

    It is however sensible to buy the largest stick of memory a slot in your PC can hold because if
    you ever need to upgrade again the sticks you take out will be pretty much worthless, however
    it obviously depends on how deep your pockets are.

  5. #65
    Fountain of knowledge.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    794
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom View Post
    I don't get this... how do you listen to 45gb of music? What kind of quality are these songs ripped? At the standard sampling rate of 128kbps, one megabyte is about one minute of audio. That would mean you have a little over 46,000 minutes of audio which means if you listened to music on average of 5 hours a day, it would still take you 154 days or so to listen to all of it. Hell, 45gb is about 13,000 songs... I don't think I've heard that many songs in my life. I would have had to have heard 1.5 new songs every day of my life to have heard that many songs...

    I dunno... I'm not calling you a liar... I'm just suggesting maybe you should clean up your hard drive a bit. I have about 4GB of music on me at any given time, and after about 3GB of adding to my mp3 player, I was struggling to find songs that I would actually listen to.
    If you like more than 1,000 songs you probably have a pretty bad taste in music!!

  6. #66
    Cat without Hat CornedBee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Posts
    8,895
    Oh, shut up.
    All the buzzt!
    CornedBee

    "There is not now, nor has there ever been, nor will there ever be, any programming language in which it is the least bit difficult to write bad code."
    - Flon's Law

  7. #67
    Internet Superhero
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    964
    Quote Originally Posted by esbo View Post
    If you like more than 1,000 songs you probably have a pretty bad taste in music!!
    Oh, so i guess your music taste sets the standard for crappy and good music then? Sorry but that is just stupid...
    How I need a drink, alcoholic in nature, after the heavy lectures involving quantum mechanics.

  8. #68
    pwns nooblars
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Portland, Or
    Posts
    1,094
    Nah, my taste in music is just varied. Sometimes I want some screaming speed metal, other times some chill R&B, I have a fair amount of Hawaiian music. Actually the only genre that I don't have a lot of is Pop, never been a big fan of it.

  9. #69
    (?<!re)tired Mario F.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    8,446
    Quite right. Classical music alone is responsible for 6GB on my desktop. I'm also interested in such varied things as world music, gothic rock, punk, alternative, trip hop, disco, african rhythms, traditional songs all over the world, et cetera ad nausea.

    I don't reach the 45GB. But I do own 27GB, of which - I am proud to say - only about 5&#37; are illegal.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

  10. #70
    Fountain of knowledge.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    794
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post
    Oh, so i guess your music taste sets the standard for crappy and good music then? Sorry but that is just stupid...
    1000 songs is rather a lot of music to listen to at one time, I mean I just tend to listen to the
    few songs I like at a particular time over and over again and then move onto something else.
    I mean would you have a 1,000 pairs of shoes?
    Probably not, well not unless you are a millipeed that is, in which case it would take you a
    month to lace them all up

  11. #71
    Frequently Quite Prolix dwks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    8,057
    Contrary to (semi-) popular belief, millipedes do not have a thousand legs. http://www.google.ca/search?q=millipede+1000
    dwk

    Seek and ye shall find. quaere et invenies.

    "Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it." -- Alan Perlis
    "Testing can only prove the presence of bugs, not their absence." -- Edsger Dijkstra
    "The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing." -- John Powell


    Other boards: DaniWeb, TPS
    Unofficial Wiki FAQ: cpwiki.sf.net

    My website: http://dwks.theprogrammingsite.com/
    Projects: codeform, xuni, atlantis, nort, etc.

  12. #72
    Fountain of knowledge.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    794
    Yes but they probably have more than one pair of shoes

  13. #73
    Frequently Quite Prolix dwks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    8,057
    Eh, even I have more than one pair of shoes.
    dwk

    Seek and ye shall find. quaere et invenies.

    "Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it." -- Alan Perlis
    "Testing can only prove the presence of bugs, not their absence." -- Edsger Dijkstra
    "The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing." -- John Powell


    Other boards: DaniWeb, TPS
    Unofficial Wiki FAQ: cpwiki.sf.net

    My website: http://dwks.theprogrammingsite.com/
    Projects: codeform, xuni, atlantis, nort, etc.

Popular pages Recent additions subscribe to a feed

Similar Threads

  1. RAM upgrade
    By BobS0327 in forum Tech Board
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 12-10-2008, 08:14 AM
  2. Ways to save RAM when RAM is very limited
    By suzanne_lim in forum C Programming
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 02-07-2006, 01:39 AM
  3. Programming and RAM
    By spveer in forum C Programming
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-16-2005, 11:17 AM
  4. RAM how do i know?
    By Boomba in forum Tech Board
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 06-18-2003, 08:17 PM
  5. pointerz
    By xlordt in forum C Programming
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 01-11-2002, 08:31 PM