Thread: Time for a new system....again

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    Time for a new system....again

    I'm thinking of upgrading my system and here is what I'm looking at. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Also if I'm going to run this with a single SLI card how big of a power supply would I need?


    Mobo: ASUS M2N32 SLI Deluxe Socket AM2
    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 Windsor AM2
    Memory: 2GB Corsair DDR2 800
    Power supply: ??????


    Drives, video card, and the rest are pretty simple choices. Most of what's in my current system will go in the next except for my BFG Tech 7800 GS 256 AGP card. That sucks since it cost so much but I'll have to get a PCI-E card for the new mobo.

    So what do you guys think? I'm keeping my case and everything ...just upping the internals a bit like I always do from time to time. It's so much easier building your own system.

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    Except that you have to find out how much power you need yourself

    The FX series eats a lot of power. Another question is how many HDDs you have in that thing.
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    The power really depends on the HDD, (FDD, CD-ROM) and the motherboard.

    If i was in your place i would have choosed 800W PSU. For better performance and not to make to as bottleneck, by giving too much pressure on low Watt PSU.

    And more over these 800W PSU comes with the modular connector. This gives more advantages. So for example if i need power for my new HDD i just connect one more power cable to one of those modules (connectors) thats it.

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    This guy also has looked into PSU stuff, but his site seems to be down.
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    Right now I've got 3 drives but I'll be getting rid of my 20GB and using my 80GB for the OS and the 160GB for my main storage and game drive.

    The only cards I'll have are an Audigy 2 which I may also dump since I've not been to impressed with Creative as of the past...oh...7 years or so, a LAN card for my DSL, and of course the video card which won't be going into the new system.

    I may get the Agea PhysX card but that depends on how popular and how widely supported it is. Right now it seems a bit 'gimmicky' for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardware needs website
    Sometimes I wonder if my hardware needs would be more bearable if I wasn’t working as a Free Software developer. Two days ago, as I wrote, I received the shipment from K&M with the new PSU for Farragut, and new fans for Enterprise.

    The PSU, a be quiet Straight Power 400W works as a charm; the load of the UPS under normal system operation fell down from 29% to 21%, which means it’s saving about 80W, as unlikely as that might sound. In my previous blog post I estimated a 10% improvement of 30W, seems like the improvement was of more than twice what I was expecting. Not a bad thing at all for me.

    About the fans, I bought a Sharkoon Silent Eagle 2000 120×120 (I didn’t know this brand but it was one of the cheapest); they say that the fan is covered with the same material of golf balls; not sure if it’s that or not, but it certainly does seem to work fine and silent even if it beats the hell out of my previous fan.

    For the hard disks I ordered two Revoltec Hard Drive Freezer another brand I didn’t know before, but half cheap and I wanted to give it a try; they also work quite well.

    The nice thing to see about this is that the three brands are all Germans, as far as I can see, this explains why they cost so much less than here: the manufacturers probably sell directly to shops like K&M rather than using a distributor that then ships to the other part of the world to be sold (most of the components I can buy here are made in Taiwan, then sold to a distributor in Italy, which then sells to shop, which then sell to me); this way it cuts down the shipment costs, even if I pay extra to get the final goods to me, and is probably more environmentally friendly than having stuff moved through the whole world before reaching my house.

    But, I titled this post about hardware needs, and what I just wrote was about hardware I bought and thus I don’t need anymore. There are though a few things that I’m still in need for.

    The first is the PSU for Klothos that I already blogged about; when I placed my order to K&M last time I ordered the 370W Be Quiet BQT-P5 Blackline Titanium 2-Lüfter PSU that should be designed for server usage, so should fit nicely into the Ultra 5 pizzabox. The alternative, suggested to me by nightmorph, would be the Antec Neo He 380 (as you can see it’s quite overdimensioned, the original PSU should be around 250/300W; but this is the minimum you find, and as it is I could use it for other boxes in case Klothos dies). The problem with this is that I can’t seem to find be quiet anywhere in Italy, and the Antec one I found… for €70 + €18 of shipment (from 50/60Km from where I live, by the way), which would be almost three times what I paid for the original Ultra 5.

    Although Klothos had a main contribution by Christian Iuga who sent me 1GB of RAM for it (which makes building stages way less painful), I invested on it quite a bit already: I put on it a new CD burner (or it wouldn’t have read CD-RW medias), a Promise SATA controller, a 160GB Samsung SATA hard disk, a Compact Flash to IDE adapter, together with a 1GB Compact Flash card, and the most expensive new component I bought, the Intel GigaBit card (which will never arrive to GigaBit on an Ultra5 anyway, but at least does not work as badly as the integrated card) that costed me €45, (one time and a half what I paid the original box).

    It certainly disappoints me not to be able to use the box right now, but beside the noise made by the PSU, it’s too hot to turn it on; I’d like to buy the PSU, but that would mean I’d put components for €300 in a box that I paid €30.. a bit too much for me, especially until I get a new job (and then I’d probably not have time anymore to use Klothos anyway).

    Beside this obnoxious matter, I end up having more “mundane” needs lately, for instance to be able to work from my room, rather than from the office (where the heat is usually quite a lot), I’d be needing an external keyboard for the MacBook Pro, possibly BlueTooth to make it more practical, but again I’m stuck as I need the new job, and then I’d probably not be able to make use of it anymore.

    So this post is here just to pose a big question: how’s it possible that if I take the job, and then stop doing most of my contributions to Free Software (most likely), I can afford myself the hardware I need now, but I won’t be able to employ it? Is this Murphy’s law? Karma? What else? Sigh!
    Personally my system never hits more than 300 watts of power. That's with a 250GB SATA drive, ATI Radeon X850 CrossFire (just one card - the master CF card), 1GB DDR2, DVD burner, ZIP-250 and about six case fans.

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    Speaking of power supplies... I just solved my long issue of getting my CD drive to work, I had been over loading my PSU and when I did anything with my CD drive (eg watch a movie, burn a CD) weird things would happen (even after trying several drives). Turns out it was a PSU issue, I only have a 420W PSU, with a ton of case fans (so many I think my computer could fly) and lights, 8600GT, 80GB, 250GB + 200GB HDDs, a tv card and other stuff

    So I removed one of my HDDs and it works a treat, I'd rather my fancy lights than 80GB of space

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