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    Thank for all the help, I have a decent idea on where I am going.

    I would like to make a main image but I am not to good at that so we'll see.

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    Question. I was thinking about making a menu the became highlighted on mouse over... I have done this before with tbles, but I was wondering if I could do it using div in a css.

    If I need to use java script could I change the background-color property of the div class on mouseover?
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    You can do the hover with styles. There is an example of that at my homepage (www.iespana.es/sokra), take a look at the source code and the stylesheet (styles.css if I remember correctly).
    I'd write an example here, but the system I'm using can't seem to recognice the keypresses needed for the braces (some ridiculously old version of KDE, the SysAdmin seems to only upgrade kernels and reboot the terminal server from time to time).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious
    EDIT:
    Question. I was thinking about making a menu the became highlighted on mouse over... I have done this before with tbles, but I was wondering if I could do it using div in a css.
    Everything you need and more
    http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
    source: compsci textbooks, cboard.cprogramming.com, world wide web, common sense

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    Recommendations:

    1) Learn PHP if you're going to do logins, database stuff, etc.
    2) Learn CSS and managing DIVs. This should be paramount as layouts with tables are a thing of the past.
    3) Opera is better to build your site in than IE. Mozilla/Firefox would be ok too, but don't build with IE as it is far too forgiving and allows you to use garbage that the other browsers don't (as someone else mentioned). I've found Opera to be an excellent test browser. The only thing I wish it had was a Javascript debugger (which I sadly have to flip to IE to get... which reminds me... does anyone know of a JS debugger plugin for Opera?)
    4) CSS is your friend. It's confusing at first, but can gain you TONS of time in changing things later.

    5) Most importantly, if you get stuck, ASK!

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    Ive pretty much got CSS down, but while trying to learn PHP, I made a simple page using the echo command and in IE it didnt show up and in Firefox it showed it but also showed closing backets.

    Then while looking for answers I saw that they had a section on "Downloading and Installing" for php.. I got sleepy and havent tried again, lol.

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    PHP is a server side scripting language, which means there needs to be something that will read it, execute the commands, and output whatever you tell it to output. If you don't have a webserver on the computer that has the PHP files then you can't do it. Of course there are free webserver programs (*cough*apache*cough*) so you can always get one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ober
    Recommendations:
    3) Opera is better to build your site in than IE. Mozilla/Firefox would be ok too, but don't build with IE as it is far too forgiving and allows you to use garbage that the other browsers don't (as someone else mentioned). I've found Opera to be an excellent test browser. The only thing I wish it had was a Javascript debugger (which I sadly have to flip to IE to get... which reminds me... does anyone know of a JS debugger plugin for Opera?)
    Might I change this to:
    Use Opera as your primary browser for building the site, but you should check it with IE, Mozilla, and any other browser you can get your hands on.

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