Linux Linux why Linux??

[Waldo2k2]

actually i586 is the last generation of processors (newer p3's celerons and up) same goes for amd. i686 is a processor with hyperthreading.

[-=SoKrA=-]

>>i686 is a processor with hyperthreading.
So Xeon and latest P4s then.
Does that include AMD's hypertransport?

[Waldo2k2]

i don't know, if it has hyperthreading then yes, but i've never heard of it


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BTW SuSe doesn't offer their distros online anymore because Novell Networks bought them out to package their novell client software on a stable platform, so SuSe isn't a free distro anymore.

[-=SoKrA=-]

>>if it has hyperthreading then yes, but i've never heard of it
Well, it doesn't have hyperthreading, it's just a technology that is souposed to make memory transfer inside the processor faster (or something), but since it's the latest I thught it might include it.

[-KEN-]

Originally posted by Waldo2k2
actually i586 is the last generation of processors (newer p3's celerons and up) same goes for amd. i686 is a processor with hyperthreading.

I don't think so. I listed my P3 as an i686 in Gentoo's install, anyway. I'm pretty sure the i686 is P2 or P3 and up.

edit: Oh, and Speedy, if you just want to try something out then you probably DON'T want Gentoo. Gentoo is a great system, but it's great because you compile everything yourself. Pointless for just trying it out. Grab Fedora if you just want to try out Linux.

[CornedBee]

If you don't have broadband internet, you should consider actually buying a distro (like SuSE) in your local software store. In the end it might actually save you money, depending on your online fees.

[thecrazycoerian]

It should be noted that LINUX is deemed as the Best Operating System in the World. The Reasons are :

1. The Most Secured OS.. Unlike Windows where Files are not as secured when particularly connected over LAN/Internet...

2. System Performance: Higher version of WIndows have Higher System Requirements... While a LiFY based Linux work even in 350MHz processor just as fine as Windows XP does...

3. Interface: Although in initial years.. it was in a poor shape.. but there are a lot of new special graphics effects that are now giving Linux a new shape...

4. Cost Effective: Very Low Cost but provides the Best Quality...

5. Availability of Tools: They are freely available over the Net...
Subscribe to a magazine like Linux for You, and you will get all the requisite Softwares/Device Drivers...
What more do u want...

I Hope all the above points satisfy u..

[bludstayne]

It should be noted that LINUX is deemed as the Best Operating System in the World. The Reasons are :

1. The Most Secured OS.. Unlike Windows where Files are not as secured when particularly connected over LAN/Internet...

2. System Performance: Higher version of WIndows have Higher System Requirements... While a LiFY based Linux work even in 350MHz processor just as fine as Windows XP does...

3. Interface: Although in initial years.. it was in a poor shape.. but there are a lot of new special graphics effects that are now giving Linux a new shape...

4. Cost Effective: Very Low Cost but provides the Best Quality...

5. Availability of Tools: They are freely available over the Net...
Subscribe to a magazine like Linux for You, and you will get all the requisite Softwares/Device Drivers...
What more do u want...

I Hope all the above points satisfy u..

1. Most secure OS? That just depends on what software you are running with Linux. The BSD's are just as secure as Linux, I've heard from lots of people that it's more secure actually. It's mainly just opinion. I trust almost any *nix OS out there.
2. Windows XP's system requirements aren't too steep really. It's a modern OS, therefore you need a somewhat modern comp. I ran XP just fine with a K6-2 500MHz with 128MB SDRAM. In today's computer world, 0.5 GHz is not fast enough, unless you are just doing office stuff and programming. There are many other OS's out there that are low on sys requirements than Linux. In fact, there are hardly any OS's that require you to have a computer faster than a Pentium Pro.
3. Don't talk about things you have no clue about. It's called X, and it is outdated. It needs to be replaced, many know that. It is already superior to Windows, don't get me wrong. Poor shape? Hell, unix based OS's have always had an awesome interface. Have you ever heard of the command line? There are some many great shells out there, bash being my favorite. X was never in "poor" shape. It was the window managers and desktops that were in bad shape. Don't like it? Welcome to the world of *nix. Make your own, and shuddap.
4. Very low cost? How about free? Like just about everything you'll ever need. Once you switch to *nix, you can stop worrying about buying software completely, just download the source and compile it. Usually the stuff that requires you to pay for it is not worth it, a bunch of amatuers that don't understand the philiosophies of free software.
5. Why subscribe to anything? Just do google searches and you'll find everything. Sourceforge and freshmeat are good resources as well.

One big thing you need to realize is that Linux is not the only alternatuve to Windows. There are many, many good OS's out there, a lot of them are free.

[Fountain]

Just a thought.

Would all the Linux users change their mind if MS released a 'perfect' Windows OS?

I dont mean to do with the adaptability; more like secure, reliable to the extreme, perfectly stable, user friendly, fast and well priced.

And when I say change your mind, I dont mean swap OS, I mean you may stop bleating on and writing M$. Would you not hold them in higher regard then?

Just a thought.

[golfinguy4]

Originally posted by thecrazycoerian

1. The Most Secured OS.. Unlike Windows where Files are not as secured when particularly connected over LAN/Internet...

Nope. Actually, there is an OS that comes out of Canada that is more secure. It has never been hacked into and has been around since the 80s. It's only used in banks, etc.

[Speedy5]

I test drove an Apple G5 64-bit and it was incredible. Blazing fast, *amazing* theme and user interface, simple to use, and it just looks so friggin cool with its 23' widescreen monitor (or something like that). I've also heard developing on apples is easy. 64-bit apples are like wow.

Right now I'm gonna go eat an analog apple... LOL

[CornedBee]

Would all the Linux users change their mind if MS released a 'perfect' Windows OS?

No, the notion of evil MS is too fixed.

[bludstayne]

I don't dislike Microsoft just because of Windows. I dislike them because of all of their software, and how they try to purposely make their own standards instead of complying with others.

Speedy5> It had a 23 foot monitor on it? Golly gee, that wouldn't even fit in my house.

[JLPence]

So many reasons...

(1) I refuse to have to spend thousands of dollars just to do what I need to do with my computer. $200 for an OS, $500 for office, $500 for photoshop, and that's just the basics as far as I'm concerned. $1200 just do to the basics! Could buy a whole new computer for that much.

Or I could burn an distro ISO. For a total cost of ~35 cents for a blank disc I get a powerful, stable, and highly customisable OS. I get Open Office, GIMP, a fairly decent desktop environment (KDE, which is drop dead gorgeous compared to fugly Windows IMO), and a ton of other crap.

For a net price of 35 cents I no longer have to worry about unlicenced programs, I have the source to everything to learn from and modify, and if I want to give a friend a copy of program X then I can. Its Free Software as in beer, and it feels kinda neat to be legal for the first time since DOS 6.2.

(2) Free as in speech - As somebody learning C I find the fact that I can look at and learn from the source code from killer apps such as Apache and Gaim to be a major help. When I get experienced enough I can modify the programs to my liking. If a friend wants a copy of a program then I can just give it to them without breaking any laws.

My computer is my own to do with as I damn well please. There is no DRM bull$$$$ to mess with. There are no EULA's that make you give up your firstborn child just so you can send a stupid email. GNU/Linux gives me the freedom to do with my machine whatever I want without any limitations other than my skills and imagination. Did you know that the Visual C++ EULA states that you can't use it to build an office app, amongst other things? BS like that is like a distant nightmare.

It feels really neat being Free for the first time in my life. GNU/Linux rocks.

(3) Stable. I'll admit that Win2K is a major stability improvment compared to Win98, but I still had stuff crash every now and then. In the ~4 months I've been Free I've had only one crash, and that was when I mucked up my first kernel upgrade. This operating system is simply immortal, it will not die.

(4) Speed. I run a 466mhz celeron with 256mb ram. As a poor boy, upgrading is not an option right now. Linux is screaming fast compared to Windows. And the more I upgrade the faster it gets - distros are compiled for the i386 generic chipsets, and when I compile GCC outputs code designed for my i686 chip.

If I was using Windows I'd most likely have to upgrade my computer when I upgrade my OS. Linux runs on my box just fine, and I'm not worried about upgrading for at least another year or so.

(5) It's hella fun to learn - You can't help but to learn how it works. You start your conversion by having to relearn how to do different tasks. Next thing you know you've got a dog eared copy of a shell programming manual as your mouse pad. I've found that once you forget all the BS you learned in Windows and start to learn how to operate in GNU/Linux you realize just how elegant it really is. And then it starts calling to you... "Learn me... learn me..." I swear that this OS is like crack.

(6) It's not fugly like Windows. In fact, under the right hands it can look damn good. About once every two weeks I just totally change the look of my GUI. I never get bored with how things look.

(7) It's not dumbed down. Everything's out in the open. Which means that I'm independant and must rely on myself to do everything, not the OS. I like that. If something $$$$s up I can't complain about the OS being a jerk. I have only myself to blame. Call it computing without training wheels. I like it.

(8) I'm not supporting a monopoly that I detest for countless reasons. Before I switched I was running a pirated version of Win2K. Didn't give them a dime and I still supported them simply by helping their absolute dominance of the market.

(9) I'm sure I'll think of a hundred more reasons right after I click "Post".

Let me tell you, it felt really good when I formatted my hard drive and went to using GNU/Linux exclusively. Then I damn near went bald tearing hair out trying to figure out why X, Y, and Z didn't work like it did in Windows. Then I totally let go of my borg implants and started to learn how things are really supposed to be done.

Been in love with the penguin ever since. I'm proud to call myself a Linux zealot now. (Hey, at least I know I'm an OS zealot, unlike the countless MS drones out there.)

[afreedboy]

I found out that SuSe9 has 5CDs in cd store. That cost much than if I buy only one CD. The seller said he is not sure whether it will work or not. Is it possible me to buy only CD number one and install it??????? I don't need any office or any other applications. I just want to try Linux.