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    Microsoft communication problem.

    Although it is not urgent, I am still looking at resolving the problem I was talking about back here...

    Downgrade Windows 10

    ... I went to Microsofts website and tried to log in. It gave me a screen saying I needed to enter a validation code, (or similar phrase - can't remember), which it would send to my phone.

    I do not have a mobile phone, no need of one, so am stuck again.

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    Normally there is a link you can click that says you didn't receive your code and to try a different way. They can email it to you. This is the way I handled signing in prior to owning a phone.

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    Okay, I'll try that.

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    I didn't find that, I waited for my wife to come home and had the validation code, or whatever, sent to her phone. My question is now posted over there.

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    I am now up and running again with Windows 8.1 64 bit, so should not be seeing the "waiting for memory" status on my BOINC jobs, for a while at least.

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    ... but now, Thunderbird will not get e-mail. I tried asking at Mozilla, but they want to send me a mail to complete my registration which, of course, I cannot receive because...

    >>> Thunderbird will not get e-mail

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    I've got around my mail problem, it is not quite what it was, but it works well enough for my modest requirements. I have, however, run into another problem. During the rebuild, I came to reinstall my various compilers. None, (that I have tried so far), are new, ie. they were all present on the system before the 32 -> 64 bit conversion, under Win 8.1 and Win 10. They fail to load, say incompatible. Is that a 64 bit issue?

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    32-bit executables run without problems on Win64.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Visual C++ 5.0, 6.0 and Visual Studio will not load. These were working on the same machine under 32 bit Windows 8.1 and 10.

    >>> say incompatible.

    I'll try various versions of Delphi in the morning. I've versions going back to Windows 95 era.
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    Maybe because you're using 15-18 year old software? Upgrade!
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fossaw View Post
    Visual C++ 5.0, 6.0 and Visual Studio will not load. These were working on the same machine under 32 bit Windows 8.1 and 10.

    >>> say incompatible.

    I'll try various versions of Delphi in the morning. I've versions going back to Windows 95 era.
    Run whatever version of Windows you need in a VM.

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    The versions I have served the purpose I required them for. I don't see why I should shell out cash to upgrade to something that I don't need. The C++, Delphi and Fortran compilers I have worked fine, and are of appropriate vintage for the customers of my company, which we support. Yes Epy, I could, but I don't see why I should have too because...

    >>> 32-bit executables run without problems on Win64

    ... until they don't. It is probably a restriction forced by MS rather than a technical issue, better for them I buy new. I'll try loading Delphi in the morning and see what happens with that. At the end of the day, I can use GCC if necessary.

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    No one is going to support 15 year old software. That's your problem.
    Have anyone told you about the advantages of upgrading to a newer compiler? More languages features, bug fixes, better code gen, faster, supports newer features, is not obsolete and requires very special expertise to keep running, etc.
    Visual Studio Community is free. There's no reason you can't upgrade unless you're running a big enterprise company.

    You had better learn to upgrade, and teach your customers to upgrade. This is a not an MS restriction; this is just a general restriction. You are being paranoid and you are being unreasonable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    So, a collection of versions of professional editions of MS software which worked on 32 bit Windows 8.1 and 10, (they worked on XP before that as well), but won't even install on 64 bit Windows 8.1, the installer says not compatible. Yeah, right, that's not MS, I'm being unreasonable.

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    You are being unreasonable for thinking that 15 years old software should still install and work. You were lucky with the 32-bit versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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