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    Why don't do like me, buy the biggest and the best, just so that you can show off and have a better computer than your friends Oh, and Acer computers are very good for eye-candy, like their screens are fancy and all, but confusing to code in, or atleast for me :P It's too smooth, teh mouse and all...
    Oh, and in the Faroe Islands, Eee laptops are getting sold for almost nothing with Linux installed and stuff Like, they cost about the same as a console game :P
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    That could be just an indication that console games are rather expensive there

    As to mice and stuff, I never use what comes with the computer, preferring a Wacom pen tablet and MS Natural keyboard which go a long way to prevent my RSI symptoms.
    Which of course means those mini laptops are useless to me as I'd need to lug around a fullsized keyboard anyway.
    Though I am thinking of maybe buying one as a small server. Install Solaris or Linux, drop it in the bottom of a closet with a highspeed cable to my router, and it's a nice little web or database server.

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    it would rule having a private server o.o I can buy two Eee's for the price of Guitar Hero World Tour
    But I meant that the mouse goes all smooth on the screen, too much eye-candy :P It's like... I must look, but I ahve to code... Can't resist watching the screen... Must... :P
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    IMHO fast laptops are over-rated.

    For the price of a gaming laptop (~$1500-$2000), you can get a desktop that is faster (especially after overclocking) AND a light and cheap portable laptop.

    Do you really HAVE to game on the road? because you would be sacrificing a lot for it (price, weight, AND performance compared to the 2 computers combo).

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    It all depends on what you need it for, cyberfish.
    If you are a sales representative who has to do video presentations at customer sites, or product demos of products requiring a lot of computing power, they're a god's end.
    If you, like me, are a consultant who uses a laptop as his primary workstation, you want a laptop with the power of a desktop as well.
    Or my sister who has no fixed workplace but spends her time shuttling between project teams in different parts of the country 3 days a week and works from home the rest of the time. She's rather happy to have a highend laptop as well.

    But indeed, for the home user who is looking for a computer that's basically never going to move, they're overrated and mostly a status symbol.

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    hmm I see what you mean.

    I am a student myself, so I don't really have the need for a high end laptop. I only use it for msn-ing during boring lectures and things of that sort. I think 90% of high end laptops are sold to people not really needing one, though, hence the remark.

    And by high end laptops I mean those $2000 monsters with 2x8800 and a Core 2 Extreme, 2 harddrives in RAID, with a 17" screen at 5kg. I think people have to be insane to buy them. They are just mini desktops with a doubled price tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfish View Post
    And by high end laptops I mean those $2000 monsters with 2x8800 and a Core 2 Extreme, 2 harddrives in RAID, with a 17" screen at 5kg. I think people have to be insane to buy them. They are just mini desktops with a doubled price tag.
    You're in fairy-tale land if you think you can get that system for $2K. :P That sounds more like a $4,000-5,000 system.

    Do people buy in excess? Of course, but it's not like it's only limited to laptops. My father runs a single-core Pentium 4 3.2Ghz with 1.5GB of RAM that be bought nearly four years ago and it still suits his needs perfectly. I'd say, as long as he takes good care of it, it should suit his needs 3-4 years from now, still... However, the tech media and the manufacturers are trying to say that the "mainstream" computer is a 2.4Ghz quad-core with a 9600GT, 4GB of RAM, and a TB of hard disk space that costs $1,200. Does the average person really need this computer? Of course not... it's all a matter of keeping up with the Joneses like everything else in this world.
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    I agree with overrated. For a laptop.
    I can build a desktop machine for a fraction of that price.
    Dang, I wish you could build laptops, as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    I agree with overrated. For a laptop.
    I can build a desktop machine for a fraction of that price.
    Dang, I wish you could build laptops, as well.
    You can... to an extent. Just look up whitebooks. MSI and ASUS make some very nice ones. You can also get them from OCZ and Compal. Essentially you're purchasing the screen, motherboard, and enclosure. You fill in the rest. I put together mine (in my sig) for about $950 when similar notebooks were selling for $1,200-1,500 even on Newegg.
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    Sweet. Still, they do seem expensive.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Sweet. Still, they do seem expensive.
    This is true... the unfortunate fact is that there is no market for low-end custom notebooks. There is also no standard motherboard size for notebooks. I can understand this, though, as most people with the knowledge of putting a notebook together are probably looking for something a little more high-end.

    That said, the most expensive part of my notebook was probably the fact that I wanted to go small. If I had used the same components in a 15.4" laptop, I could have easily knocked another $150 off that price. Knock the processor down a notch or two and I could have saved another $100.
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    Big hmmm. But it's a start.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfish View Post
    And by high end laptops I mean those $2000 monsters with 2x8800 and a Core 2 Extreme, 2 harddrives in RAID, with a 17" screen at 5kg. I think people have to be insane to buy them. They are just mini desktops with a doubled price tag.
    Hah! you wouldn't survive where I live then :P That's the price for a desktop, big one, with same specifications

    Bought mine for $2600, and this was extremely cheap :P it has: 2x9800, Core2Quad, 1HDD :P and the price was without screen >.>
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    lol I have a

    Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 3.3ghz (~$80?)
    4GB 1066mhz RAM (~$50)
    single 9600 GT (~$80)
    gigabyte motherboard (~$90)
    1 250GB HDD (~$50)
    random case that I have been using since the P3 days (~$50)

    For a total of $400
    Now, how many times is your computer faster than mine?

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    Why do you all insist on using Core 2? Why!?! WHY???? AMD traitors :/
    And I'm guessing the bulk of the price came from the 2 x 9800 + little extra cash because they were greedy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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