g++ is very slow when compared to cl

[manav]

laserlight: i will post the info when i go home, the MinGW is in my home computer.
although outdated (per se Elysia) in office i use MSVS 2003 .Net.

[Elysia]

although outdated (per se Elysia) in office i use MSVS 2003 .Net.

In other words: they force you to use it?

[manav]

Yeah. You are right Elysia.
My job requirements make me use Qt 4.1 when there is 4.3, SCons 0.96 (Yuck!) MSVS 2003 etc. etc.

[Mario F.]

How can you tell that? Have you examined some disassembly?

No. I just look at the resulting executable sizes. Duh!

[laserlight]

In other words: they force you to use it?

At least it is reasonably standards compliant, unlike MSVC6 or MSVC7.

SCons 0.96 (Yuck!)

Hehe, I noticed that SCons 0.98 was released on 31 March.

[Elysia]

At least it is reasonably standards compliant, unlike MSVC6 or MSVC7.

Better than nothing, at least. Unlike someone else's job who still uses the old MSVC6 compiler

[manav]

laserlight this is for you:

g++:

Reading specs from C:/MinGW/bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.5/specs
Configured with: ../gcc-3.4.5/configure --with-gcc --with-gnu-ld --with-gnu-as -
-host=mingw32 --target=mingw32 --prefix=/mingw --enable-threads --disable-nls --
enable-languages=c,c++,f77,ada,objc,java --disable-win32-registry --disable-shar
ed --enable-sjlj-exceptions --enable-libgcj --disable-java-awt --without-x --ena
ble-java-gc=boehm --disable-libgcj-debug --enable-interpreter --enable-hash-sync
hronization --enable-libstdcxx-debug
Thread model: win32
gcc version 3.4.5 (mingw special)

my system:

OS Name	Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version	5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer	Microsoft Corporation
System Name	INTEL
System Manufacturer	INTEL_
System Model	D845GBV2
System Type	X86-based PC
Processor	x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~1799 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date	Intel Corp. RG84510A.86A.0028.P15.0302260937, 2/26/2003
SMBIOS Version	2.3
Windows Directory	C:\WINDOWS
System Directory	C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device	\Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale	United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer	Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
User Name	INTEL\Administrator
Time Zone	Pacific Standard Time
Total Physical Memory	512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory	236.27 MB
Total Virtual Memory	2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory	1.96 GB
Page File Space	864.94 MB
Page File	C:\pagefile.sys

[matsp]

With 512MB of RAM and built-in graphics, you may not have enough memory to compile large projects. gcc and g++ are pretty memory hungry at times.

If anything else, a bit more memory will allow the system to cache more of the include files and such.

--
Mats

[manav]

thanks. actually maybe it depends on system load.
this program compiled in 2 seconds only:

#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main()
{
	cout << "Hello G++!\n";
	return 0;
}

[Mario F.]

With 512MB of RAM and built-in graphics, you may not have enough memory to compile large projects. gcc and g++ are pretty memory hungry at times.

If anything else, a bit more memory will allow the system to cache more of the include files and such.

--
Mats

I have 512MB of RAM and I'm no where close to experience manav's problems and never was. Granted, if all of those MBs are being used, I probably would. So maybe that's it. Too many things opened?

[matsp]

I have 512MB of RAM and I'm no where close to experience manav's problems and never was. Granted, if all of those MBs are being used, I probably would. So maybe that's it. Too many things opened?

Yes, I agree, that 512MB should be enough, but you don't need much of antivirus software, graphics frame buffer and other such stuff to eat up enough that it starts swapping. And gcc is definitely not "lean" on memory usage.

--
Mats

[mike_g]

Surely 512mb RAM is plenty.

Manav: maybe theres somethin eating up all your resources, either that or you have a very old pc.

My laptop specs are:
512mb ram.
Celeron underclocked @ 630mhz
280mhz bus.
No GPU: leeches off ram instead.
OS: Xubuntu

But g++ will still compile pretty much any small project for me in less time than is noticable.

[Elysia]

512 MB is not plenty
It's pretty poor these days. You can't have much running with 512 MB and expect a fast system...

[mike_g]

Don't Insult my new laptop Elysia

On the plus side its only about 9" big and has a solid state HD that boots into xfce in around 30 seconds.

Tbh I find 512mb ram more than enough for most of the things I do with a computer. I can still run FF with a load of tabs open, pidgin, the terminal, and gedit all at once with no paging. What more should I need?

[Mario F.]

LOL. We had this discussion before Elysia. Let it go. I think you were proved wrong back then. It's a matter of what you do with your computer. 512MB Ram can be plenty, yes. It IS plenty on my case. I honestly don't feel at all the need to put in some more.