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that this is probably my isp, given we all share the same first two ip numbers. sorry :(

I tracert'd one of them and it's on the same ISP as me. The other has disconnected.. Both were dialup ppp...

I tried to upload and then put an avatar on another site.. When govtcheez told me it might be because of tripod preventing d/l's from other sites, I put the file on my webserver and tried from...