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Hello,
I'm working on a c++ project at school but the only compilers I can find require an installation. The administrators have disabled installations for non-administrator users.
I know on linux you can simply do "gcc file.cpp" to complile it, but I was unable to find something like that for windows xp. (I can use the terminal to compile something).
Any help will be greatly appreciated,
Thanks,
Matt N
Disabled installations how? There most likely is a way around it.
I don't think you have to install TurboC, but it's very old.
I don't know how they did it. I've tried to install many programs (such as firefox, bloodshed c++ compiler) and it says "You do not have the proper privleges to install this. Contact you system administrator for more information." Or something along those lines.
There's gotta be a compler that you can just copy the execuable and necessary library files and then just make a batch file to do "gcc file.cpp".
I'll give TurboC a try
MinGW might be usable without "installation." Failing that maybe you can find a gcc binary out there somewhere, but you still need a standard library (headers and library archives). A compiler binary all by itself isn't enough to create useful programs.
Have you tried asking if you can install something? If they expect you to write code, it seems reasonable that they should let you install a compiler.
It's a weird situation. Usually im in the "tech" lab writing out the code, but thats full so I'm stuck in the library to do my work. I asked and they said to ask the tech person - no idea who that is...
I was just hoping there was a .zip file with the library headers and a compler =\
Do you have access to a UNIX account somewhere? You could just ssh there and do development remotely.Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarist809
I don't even think DOS supports ssh. My school's blocked all ports except 80, i think ssh is either 22 or 23 =[
You might be able to find a web-proxy that lets you shuttle an ssh connection over port 80 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarist809
Don't use Turbo C. Don't use real DOS. Use Windows XP or something modern.
http://clusty.com/search?query=onlin...Mozilla-search
Or get your own machine and do whatever you want to do.
Or complain to the college about not providing enough resources.
Well, if you really wanted me to I could put the entire Microsoft Visual Studio Express Edition (which is free) into a zip file, however, that could possibly be illegal/bad so does anyone have an idea whether or not that's bad?
Obvioulsy, the term "installation" can be interpreted in many ways, but I believe that ALL compilers require installation in some way or another. Certainly gcc on Linux does - it just happens to be part of what is often installed by default.
You are very unlikely to find any compiler that can be installed without "installing". Now there's of course a question as to what the system admin software constitutes as "installation", and what is just copying files from one place to another. Without knowing that, it's almost impossible to give you a "right answer".
For example, I'm 100% sure that any of the gcc-variants (mingw for example) that run on Windows can be "instlaled" entirely without touching any files in \windows (or \winnt in relevant cases), which may be one reason for requiring "installation".
On the other hand if "copying executable files or DLL's" to the machine is what's considered "installing", then the likely answer is that "you can't do that".
Edit: Mikeman: "Redistributing" Visual Studio Express is definitely outside the allowed activities in the End User License Agreement.
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Mats
Windows doesn't have umasks as far as I know, so nothing can stop the user from copying an executable to his home directory and executing it. Installation actions that require admin access are copying files to the Windows directory and modifying the registry tree outside the user-specific root.
MinGW ought to work without these, but actually getting it to run could be tricky.
Actually, windows support ACL (Access Control Lists) which theoretically can be used to restrict anyone from doing just about any file access model ever considered [and a few no one would ever even dream of in a high fever nightmare, probably].Quote:
Originally Posted by CornedBee
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Mats
Didn't think of that, yeah. You can stop a user from executing files except in special directories. (I was thinking about masking the permissions, though. Which is different, in a way.)
I dunno, I'd just find the tech guy to be honest.
Yeah, I figured you couldn't do that (in my earlier post).
Anyway, I thought that you disabling installation on XP only applied to installing CD's, but maybe I'm wrong.
You could log in to the Unix servers using "telnet" from START MENU>RUN> type "telnet"
Telnet is built-in to WinXP, but has it's limitations...
OOOOR....... Download PuTTy. << No installation required.
hopefully with one of those ways you'll be able to open an xTerm successfullly(and hopefully it behaves itself!) then you can gcc all yo shiznit til yer hearts content!
If you have trouble w/putty (you'll have to enable x-forwarding, and set the display to point to your machine should look like this: localhost:0
This may or may not mean you can open an xterm...
Cygwin is one way around this...
X-Win32 is another (and lighter-weight) << It's possible to find FREE versions of X-Win32 if you're a student...
If SSH is blocked, PuTTY won't help. Apparently, only HTTP is open.
wouldn't a live CD with a compiler work...?
Well, you probably would need to have some storage medium like a floppy or an USB Stick, but in theory it should work...
Edit: Ah wait, that's nonsense. It would compile it as linux executable...
Not if you ran something like DJGPP inside Wine under a Linux booted from a live CD. :D
[edit] If I were you, I'd install GCC or something onto a pen drive, stick that into the computer, and compile off of that. As long as you picked a compiler that didn't use any registry entries, and the computer was allowed to read pen drives, and you actually have a pen drive, it should work. :) [/edit]
Guitarist,
If you are planning on doing much programming, or if you are taking a programming class, you really need your own computer. (If you are a college student, you need your own computer for word processing, spreadsheets, and research, even if you are not programming it.)
You need your own computer because debugging time is unpredictable. You might be working on a small program with one tiny-little bug... You might find the bug in five minutes, or it might take you five hours!
If you don't have a computer because you don't need one for anything else, perhaps you can borrow one. Many people/families have an "extra" computer lying around (perhaps on older one).
If you don't have a computer because you can't afford one, you should be able to find a used one cheaply. People are always upgrading, and they need to get rid of their old one. It's not uncommon for someone to give-away their old computer, but finding that person at the right time might be tough.
Doug.
>> you really need your own computer.
I'm not sure I totally agree with this. I completed a CS degree without my own computer simply by using computer labs that were open late hours. It would have been nice if I had my own, but I actually worked better in the lab than I would have on my own machine.
In fact, with the rise of web applications, web storage, and public terminal farms (libraries, coffee shops, lobbies, etc.), we're actually headed away from the "everybody needs a computer" paradigm. Things do come full circle -- computing started out with time-sharing and we seem to be heading that direction again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daved
I am surprised!!!! I can't imagine going to school without 24-hour handy-access to a computer. (I did that "ancient times", but I wouldn't do it now.)Quote:
I'm not sure I totally agree with this. I completed a CS degree without my own computer
I'll bet you own more than one computer now, Daved. ...I don't want to make Guitarist feel bad, but I have two computers at home... One for audio/video, and one "main machine" for everything else. I've got five computers at work, set-up at various workstations, for various tasks! (I don't use all of them every day.)