what is right for, ?

Hi

i was searching google for c vs. c++ for finding good answers for this question and found here
i searched and viewd last topics aboat this, but i didnt find my answer ... :(

i'm a php programer and program web application for two years, i know ruby and rails too ( but not good as php)
i want to start a rich ( i will explain what is rich for me :) ) programin language in other hand side ( not web, client based ).
i know some Vb, and C# , but this are commersial language ! they are not fed me ! i want freely !

i think a rich language is a language that i can do everything i want, what i want ? i want all of thing ...

Linux & Windows Programing, for example ( my dream ) write grahical user interface for linux like gnome, working with audio and video codecs, 3d games, write php extension, or hmm write browsers ! write image editing programs and ... !

look ! i dont want write this programs now ! but i want to do it, when i need, i want learn c or c++ for do this things, if c can fed me, i will learn c, or c++ is good ( with OO Suppot :) ) i will learn cpp, i dont want to for example learn cpp and when i need to write a porgram ( for example a web server ) i cant do it

please help me friends .... c or cpp , which one is better ?

thanx alot ...

C++ definitely has its advantages over C with OOP, and its standard library is quite rich. In addition, you can usually steal some features from C with C++ (although depending how far you go it may be frowned upon) if you feel you have to.

With that said, perhaps it's because I've been used to C for so long, but I like C a lot, and I usually write applications in C as opposed to C++. In addition, I actually prefer some of its ways over the C++ ones.

Comming from PHP *eww* you'll probably pick C++ up easier than C (due to PHP's OOP approach).

C & C++ also gives you the opportunity to drop PHP and move on to CGI.

Since you know C# you might feel better at home with C++. Also, any language can do "what you want", just in different ways.

Thanx for your anwers ...

yes , i familar with C# and Php .

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i have a question, why all of great projects wrote with c ? not cpp ?

gnome, php, apache, lighttpd, mysql and others ...

is there any special thing in c that make c diffrent with c ++ ?

thanx everybody ...

I love C due to its simplicty over C++, the Linux kernel is also written in C.

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Originally Posted by Venize

i have a question, why all of great projects wrote with c ? not cpp ?

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It might have something to do with the fact that, oh, I don't know, C was created before C++ was. ;)

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Originally Posted by Venize

is there any special thing in c that make c diffrent with c ++ ?

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One is the originator. Da utha, yo, he be da imitator. Ble-dat.


Quzah.

ha, took me 5 minutes to decipher quzah's gangster talk...

thanx for replay

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Originally Posted by quzah

One is the originator. Da utha, yo, he be da imitator. Ble-dat.

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i dont understand this part :) can you explain it more ? ( my english language is not good :( ) :)

Technically its not English :)

This is how I interpreted it...

One is the originator.
> One is a very stupid person.

Da utha, yo, he be da imitator.
> The author is the imitator.

Ble-dat.
> Believe that.

Makes sense... *cough*

originator
imitator

One is the originator; the other is the imitator. Believe that.


Quzah.

I was way off because of urban translations -> http://urbandictionary.com :(

quzah may I ask why you wrote it like that ?

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Originally Posted by zacs7

I was way off because of urban translations -> http://urbandictionary.com :(

quzah may I ask why you wrote it like that ?

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You just did. Ask that is.


Quzah.

It's english, just with some sort of ghetto spelling.
"One is the originator. The other one is an imitator."

hmm.

i think c is better for me, i love no limition, since c++ imitat from c, i think, c++ may not have the c freedom and have some limiton in front of c.
its true ? or wrong ?

And C is an imitator of?

I don't think there is anything you can do in C that you can't do in C++. The first may be easier to learn because it supports less programming paradigms, the second may allow you to do things in a cleaner way (but it takes a lot of learning for that).

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And C is an imitator of?

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Assembly, which is the imitator of byte code, which is the imitator of digital logic, which is...

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Originally Posted by OnionKnight

It's english, just with some sort of ghetto spelling.

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Trust son, drop some D's on this thread cuz it be mad flossin'!

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Assembly, which is the imitator of byte code, which is the imitator of digital logic, which is...

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Actually C imitated B, which imitated A (presumably). How can you say that C imitates assembly, the syntax isn't even slightly similar.