How can i make a normal application

How can i make a normal application, not win32?
What program...
What source code...

Choose "console" application in your IDE (you didn't say which).

Ok but it still starts in a system32 screen??? ( i mean that black screen) What can i do about that???
btw. im using Visual C++ express edition

and btw. (i know im noob) what does IDE mean?

What do you mean by "normal" application. On win32 there are two main types of application these are windows console applications and windows GUI applications.
Console applications display a console with text, GUI applications don't display a console and normally create a window.

I want to make a game, understand?
but not with text... but with models in 3D
So i need a GUI application... if i understand it right??
how do i do that then?

A GUI application has a WinMain function instead of a main function. Some compilers will require to set it to GUI in the project settings.

To make a game you would use DirectX or OpenGL.

Before you do that you might want to read some tutorials such as those written by The Forger which will show you how a GUI application works.

Sorry that i have to ask one more thing...
But i have an error: Can't find windows.h, there's no such file...
What can i do bout that?

do you happen to use MSVC++2005 express edition? if so you need to download Platform SDK from microsoft.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/ex...alc/usingpsdk/

If you have a legitimate copy of your compiler and IDE, and it was installed correctly, then your IDE should be able to locate the appropriate headers and libraries. If it cannot, and it is a genuine copy, I suggest you de-install it and re-install using the installers defaults.

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Originally Posted by adrianxw

If you have a legitimate copy of your compiler and IDE, and it was installed correctly, then your IDE should be able to locate the appropriate headers and libraries. If it cannot, and it is a genuine copy, I suggest you de-install it and re-install using the installers defaults.

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MSVC++ 2005 express dosen't come with the headers or libraries to create window API applications. The instructions say you need to download the SDK as well.

Make sure to do a full install of the SDK, I used the custom install and it didn't install a need library.

The Forger is not very usefull to me... because it's written in C..
Thank you all very much... my compiler now accepts windows.h and stuff...
Does anyone know a good site for a free Open GL download?

is there btw another tutorial like The Forger that is written in C++
and does anyone know a good site for a free Open GL download?

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#include <windows.h>

int WINAPI WinMain(HINSTANCE hInstance, HINSTANCE hPrevInstance,
    LPSTR lpCmdLine, int nCmdShow)
{
    MessageBox(NULL, "Goodbye, cruel world!", "Note", MB_OK);
    return 0;
}

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the error with this is:
SDK special.cpp
c:\documents and settings\waalwijk\mijn documenten\visual studio 2005\projects\sdk special\sdk special\sdk special.cpp(6) : error C2664: 'MessageBoxW' : cannot convert parameter 2 from 'const char [22]' to 'LPCWSTR'
Types pointed to are unrelated; conversion requires reinterpret_cast, C-style cast or function-style cast

what do i have to do bout this?

The code above in perfectly valid c++ the reason it isn't compiling is that the compiler is set to unicode.
To make the code work as it is open your project in MSVC++ and go to the project menu and click properties. underneath configuration properties select general and then set charactor set to "not set".
You can also work in unicode by placing an L before text strings

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MessageBox(NULL, L"Goodbye, cruel world!", L"Note", MB_OK);

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Or even

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MessageBox(NULL, _TEXT("Goodbye, cruel world!"), _TEXT("Note"), MB_OK);

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, then you can mess with turning unicode on and off, and you don't have to keep hacking the code about to cope with it.

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c:\documents and settings\waalwijk\mijn documenten\visual studio 2005\projects\sdk special\sdk special\sdk special.cpp(6) : error C2664: 'MessageBoxA' : cannot convert parameter 2 from 'const wchar_t [22]' to 'LPCSTR'
        Types pointed to are unrelated; conversion requires reinterpret_cast, C-style cast or function-style cast

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this is the error... i tried all...

The error saying MessageBoxA instread of MessageBoxW shows that you've successfully switched unicode off.

I sugested using an L before the text if you wanted to stick with unicode it won't work with it turned off. Using the _TEXT macro sugested by Salem should work fine for both.

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If you have a legitimate copy of your compiler and IDE, and it was installed correctly,

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MSVC++ 2005 express dosen't come with the headers or libraries to create window API applications.

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If this was his problem, then consulting the download and install page for 2005 express, it was not installed correctly.

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Originally Posted by jobbie

I want to make a game, understand?
but not with text... but with models in 3D
So i need a GUI application... if i understand it right??
how do i do that then?

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no offense, but you're not ready to do anything in 3d.

Learn the C++ language first, preferably in console mode.
Then learn GUI programming (and try to avoid the win32 api, which is a C API)
then try a 2d game (a tetris clone is a good start)
THEN you can think about 3d.