While I totally disagree with how it was handled, and I think she had the right to die.
I would like to take a minute and give prayer that Terri Schiavo may finially rest in peace.
May she be blessed, and may her family find peace.
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While I totally disagree with how it was handled, and I think she had the right to die.
I would like to take a minute and give prayer that Terri Schiavo may finially rest in peace.
May she be blessed, and may her family find peace.
And may the freakin news people focus on ANYTHING else.
RIP Schiavo.
AmenQuote:
Originally Posted by ober
So say we all.Quote:
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Anyone see South Park last night?
The PSP is released and Kenny becomes an expert player at a game called Heaven and Hell (I think?). Of course he dies and gets sent to heaven where he finds out that god created the PSP and the game to discover if there were any on Earth that could lead heaven's army against an impending attack from the army of hell. Being the best there is, Kenny is given a golden PSP that will issue commands to heaven's forces as the battle rapidly approaches. Just as the armies of hell start to attack, Kenny's soul returns to Earth, it seems that doctors managed to revive his body but were unable to save him from brain damage. His soul remains trapped in his body and the doctor's make reference to a "persistant vegetative state" and he gets a feeding tube put into him. The whole town of South Park gets involved in the argument whether to let Kenny pass on or keep him alive. At the end he finally is allowed to die whereupon his soul is released to return to heaven. He is able to take control of the golden PSP and in turn the forces of heaven's army where he leads them to victory.
Oh yeah... RIP Terry.
This shouldn't have been news in the first place.
No it shouldn't. Now we might be able to look at real news....you know like safety standards at oil refineries (the Texas accident), education (California), and I don'w know...maybe the war?
Man, and here I was hoping this could remain the only board on the Internet without a Terri Schiavo thread.
Oh well, at least this one was after the fact.
Why is this thread made sticky?
I second that. Theres so many other people out there that are in the same situation. I dont understand how she got to be in the news. Our professor spend 20min of class time to tell us that things in life arent always as it seem, and how religion was involved in this situation. Ok fine, whatever... but why does the whole world have to know about it? Why make it such a big deal? next you know every reporter will be looking at hosipatl patients to find who is in a comma condition so they can put it on the news and have a job for another week.Quote:
Originally Posted by BMJ
Yeah. The media coveraged made it about 1000 times more painful, I think. I just really feel bad for the family but I honestly think it was time to pull the plug. Of course, I can be objective while it was not one of my own family members.Quote:
Originally Posted by ober
The media sucks. All of it. This is proof positive of that.
I totally agree with you ober.Quote:
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The whole thing worried me......
First the GWB admin trying to overrule the courts. This is a bad precident. If there is a court ruling that the government does not like it should not be allowed to change it (ie allowing evidence gained by torture). Not to mention Jeb Bush's 'expert' evidence. Against all other opinions over the years (and from someone who had not even met the woman).
All we have as citizens, is recourse to the courts (if you can afford it...).
The second is that they can't 'assist' someone's death. They had to let her starve to death rather than give her a lethal dose of whatever (as a vet would for an old pet).
Um novacain congress and the president didn't overrule the courts. They gave the federal courts the ability to review the case. A bit of a difference.
Thankfully the federal courts basically said "We ain't getting involved"
The husband had gone through the state court system and got a favourable ruling (to his point of view).
GWB decided that the states courts ruling was wrong (or he would not have enacted a law to allow the federal courts to over-rule a state court).
Luckily the federal justices realised the importance of an independent judiciary and refused to overrule the state court.
No one likes to be told they are wrong....
Bottom line is that GWB tried and failed. This has interestingly put him in a no win situation. The 'right to lifers' are disapointed that he failed to save her. The others that he tried to overrule the court system for political points.
I don't believe that GWB is totally concerned with the right to life after the number of executions he ordered as Gov of Texas.
EDIT: I don't know how the court decided for the husband over the parents.
By retrying the case so many times, it looks like they're shopping around for rulings, which essentially means they're trying to override it. That is the purpose of the appeals system, but I think it was abused in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thantos
If a certain bill that is in Congress right now gets passed, this won't be an issue, though (it pretty much neuters the courts and takes away any idea of a checks and balances system)
> or he would not have enacted a law to allow the federal courts to over-rule a state court
AFAIK, this has always been the case. I doubt Bush did that.
> I don't believe that GWB is totally concerned with the right to life after the number of executions he ordered as Gov of Texas.
Interestingly, if Schiavo had been in Texas, she would have died quite awhile ago because of a bill Bush signed in 98 or 99.