Developing, building, and testing. How do it the best? Learning from the world leader

Developing, building, and testing. How do it the best? Learning from the world leader - Microsoft



I'm very interested in how the developing/build/testing workflow @ Microsoft looks like. I think Microsoft as world leader in software developing business must have a very good workflow. Does anyone know how the development flow @ Microsoft looks like?

I'm also interested in the workflow in your company perhaps the workflow in your company better then @ Microsoft? What do you think about test driven development?


Regards,

Gicio

>I think Microsoft as world leader in software developing business must have a very good workflow.
No, they just have a very good marketing strategy.

If Microsoft used a good workflow they wouldn't have to issue so many patches for their software! Reliable software engineering methodologies have existed long before Microsoft bought and modified the 'Quick and Dirty Operating System' (QDOS) from Tim Paterson (price tag: $50,000 - for an OS that was written in less than 6 weeks!). Market share != quality, my friend.

Note that Windows programs are so big that it is almost impossible not to have problems and bugs. The fact is, that whatever Windows programs in, it is that type of language that has this "alignment":

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It doesn't matter how big it is or how many errors in includes, as long as it does what it is supposed to do

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I'd suggest studying the open source model for developing software. Companies like Red Hat manage to be profitable without being evil and produce much more reliable products.

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Steal an idea
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Is the idea implemented  --- Yes
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hack.  Sell patches        V          V
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versions.                company.    hack.  use market
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                                    gimmicks to kill off
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So Brian you work for them don't you.


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that Windows programs are so big that it is almost impossible not to have problems and bugs. The fact is, that whatever Windows programs in, it is that type of language that has this "alignment":

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Sorry, but wrong. The bugs are the cause of the language - visual basic :mad: :mad: :mad: .

Visual basic - didn't Microsoft write that too? :D

Actually, I think Windows was mostly written in C and later, in C++, with only a small percentage going to the other languages.

To be fair, Microsoft hasn't totally failed at writing decent software, and they even introduced some innovations. Of course, had they *really* done it right, they would've come up with the Macintosh. :)

Which workflow use companies that are on the CMM levels 3, 4, 5 ???
(http://www.sei.cmu.edu/cmm/)



regards,


gicio

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Originally posted by Lurker
Sorry, but wrong. The bugs are the cause of the language - visual basic :mad: :mad: :mad: .

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WTF... Windows and I'm sure most of the other software that is produced by MS is NOT written in VB. VB is a quick development language and there is NOTHING wrong with it in that respect. Stop bashing VB because a lot of companies use it as a very successful tool.

LOL!!!

VB6 rulez :D


Which companies are on the CMM levels 3, 4, 5 ???

regards,

gicio

> I'm very interested in how the developing/build/testing
> workflow @ Microsoft looks like.

Writing Solid Code: Microsoft's Techniques for Developing Bug-Free C Programs
Steve Maguire

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

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Originally posted by Shiro

Microsoft's Techniques for Developing Bug-Free C Programs

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hehehe

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Originally posted by Brian
hehehe

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I MUST agree :D .