Real Game Coding

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07-01-2003
Axpen

Real Game Coding

Does anybody here, or anybody here have friends or relatives that program for a Commercial/Proprietairy game company like Blizzard Entertainment or ESPECIALLY game companies like Squaresoft?

I was wondering what kind of software they use to program, I know Squaresoft has had 1 or 2 Final Fantasy ports to PC, but, what kind of compilers do pro's use in PC development, stuff like Visual Studio.NET's Visual C++ or Borland Delphi, or is there something better?!? (I know those are both integrated IDE's, but I mean the best compiler)

Thanks for taking a look at this,
Alex
07-01-2003
confuted

A lot of the pros that are programming on Windows will use Visual Studio... No, there really isn't something "better" than what is available to everyone
07-01-2003
XSquared

I know that Blizzard uses MSVC for its games.
07-01-2003
DavidP

Quote:

Does anybody here, or anybody here have friends or relatives that program for a Commercial/Proprietairy game company

yes, i do

and just like the people who answered this thread before I did...they use MSVC for the most part. If they are developing for a platform other than Windows,they will use something else, but as so much of the market is Windows software, mostly MSVC is used.
07-01-2003
Zach L.

Working at a non-game oriented company, though one that supports multiple platforms, we generally use GCC.
07-01-2003
Axpen

Thanks

Thanks alot for all your help, I was just wondering what was out there. I know SONY limits what "the public" can get, and thought that it might be the same for Win32, well it's good to know that it's not, again thanks,
Alex:D
07-01-2003
gcn_zelda

yup. My cousin's uncle works with whatever company makes Warcraft. Blizzard, I think.
07-01-2003
zornthrohacker

Blizard makes allot of stratagy games, asid from civilization(sid myers)...

:eek: I thought you had to have a seperat compilar to compile programms to work on - say the ps2, or maby just another set of libraries. :confused:
07-01-2003
Cheeze-It

3 of the Blizzard co-founders just left the company. Blizzard will
die soon.
07-01-2003
zornthrohacker

Maby if Blizard has secret compilars and what not they will tell.
07-01-2003
XSquared

>> 3 of the Blizzard co-founders just left the company. Blizzard will die soon.

I doubt that.
07-01-2003
JaWiB

I sure hope not, have you seen starcraft ghost, I think it looks awesome...Do you want it to die?
07-01-2003
Cheeze-It

Quote:

Originally posted by XSquared
>> 3 of the Blizzard co-founders just left the company. Blizzard will die soon.

I doubt that.

Why? Blizzard is just a name. Do you think Id Software would still
be important if John Carmack left the company?

Hopefully the people that left take some of the Blizzard artists
with them.
07-01-2003
gcn_zelda

Id makes Doom and such, right? Because when I played doom on pc, the passwords are all like id------ and id--- and such...
07-01-2003
Eibro

Quote:

Originally posted by zornthrohacker
Maby if Blizard has secret compilars and what not they will tell.

No, it's quite apparent that MSVC was used.
07-01-2003
MrWizard

We use Visual Studio at work for XBOX and PC development.
07-01-2003
DavidP

Quote:

I thought you had to have a seperat compilar to compile programms to work on - say the ps2, or maby just another set of libraries

no, you use the same compilers for PS2 and XBOX as you would any other program, you just use different libraries. You must have the PS2 SDK to develop for the ps2, and the same is such for xbox and other console platforms.
07-01-2003
frenchfry164

So are you saying that if you make a program in MSVC++ that you could run it on a Apple II or Atari? Nope. You need a seperate compiler that is built to make executable files for that platform. You COULD use a cross-compiler too. It would have to have support for whatever platform you are developing on. XBox basically is the same thing as a PC with windows loaded.
07-01-2003
golfinguy4

fry, you're wrong here. If you just told the compiler to use different libraries, it could compile for whatever system you told it to.
07-01-2003
XSquared

Nope. Try making MSVC compile a program that works on a Mac or on Linux. Without using a Windows emulator, btw.
07-01-2003
golfinguy4

No crap it ain't gonna work. That's because MSVS is using windows libraries. I wonder why? It's only a windows compiler ya know. However, if you told it to use only Mac libraries or only linux libraries, the compiled app would run on the Mac/Linux and not on windows.
07-01-2003
XSquared

You would never be able to get MSVC to compile for Mac or Linux, no matter what libraries you told it to use.
07-01-2003
golfinguy4

Why's this?
07-01-2003
novacain

We use MSVC for all our comercial apps.

>>You would never be able to get MSVC to compile for Mac or Linux, no matter what libraries you told it to use.

I've made simple app's in C that work on Linux (and in MS OS's) in MSVC. Never tried for MAC.
07-02-2003
frenchfry164

Since when does MSVC output ELF or a.out executables that are built against Glibc? Libraries are not the issue here, it is executable formats.
07-02-2003
rahaydenuk

As far as I'm aware the MS linker only outputs PE (portable executable) COFF files, which will only run on Win32 O/S's or others which support this executable file format. I didn't think that either Linux nor Macs supported it.

Regards,
07-02-2003
golfinguy4

Actually, yes. But theoretically, if the correct libraries were used, the output format could be whatever the libraries displayed.