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how do you do this? like make console specific games? i am extremely curious of this.
i mean, isn;t it all C++/C, or is it a language all in its own, like "PS++" lol. i dont know, but id like to know how the programmers can test this out too. i would very much like to know.
anbody around here know?
No, Games on console's are written in the same kind of
languages as on the pc (C,C++), There are just compilers that
convert that to code the console can understand. As for how
graphics and all is done, I'm not sure of that. XBox, I think, Had
something like DirectX running on it:) .
Travis Dane is correct. They use C/C++ as their langauge in then they use PS2's own API. I assume that they have some sort of network adapter that plugs into the PS2 from the PC so they can test the code out that way. I'm not 100% positive but this makes sense to me.
Well usually the developers will make an emulator so that they can test it out with out having to burn the disk and all of that. but acually why would it need to be a special compiler so that the game system will understand? For example the XBox runs a modified P3 (I think 733 MHz but I am not sure). I know the PS2 runs a RISC but I am not sure how those differ from the others. Not sure what the game cube runs. I can see why some of the console systems need to have a special compiler but why should ones like XBox need one?
Well, The XBox might be a cheap PC but not all console are that,Quote:
Originally posted by Munkey01
why would it need to be a special compiler so that the game system will understand? For example the XBox runs a modified P3
some use different methods of graphics and input. I don't know
too much on this subject, But i think console's process things just
a little bit different, As i said it aren't exact copies of PC's and
thereby needed to be treated differently.
i've heard of this way, but i've also heard that sometimes console games are written on the pc and tested on emulators, written specifically to mock the system, i know thats how they do gba gamesQuote:
Originally posted by MrWizard
I assume that they have some sort of network adapter that plugs into the PS2 from the PC so they can test the code out that way. I'm not 100% positive but this makes sense to me.
This just points out how powerfull PC's are:) .Quote:
Originally posted by dP munky
console games are written on the pc and tested on emulators
Another weapon in the fight against consoles:cool: ...
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This just points out how powerfull PC's are .
Another weapon in the fight against consoles ...
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except you forget that the computers used to emulate are not the standard desktop.
here is one example of the "special" compilers for console programming.
http://www.metrowerks.com/MW/Develop/Games/Default.htm
if you scroll down the page you'll see compilers and tools for PS2, GameCube, gba..... you do, however, need special hardware to burn proper game discs (unless your PSX has one of those after market mod chips) although ive heard rumors that a regular DVD burner can burn playstation games.
But desktop are well able to perform this task, if fast enough.Quote:
Originally posted by no-one
except you forget that the computers used to emulate are not the standard desktop.
>>This just points out how powerfull PC's are
well think about it, games take anywhere from 12 to 24 months to develop. now imagine if you had to wait to release a console because you didnt have games for it. if you have the idea of how things are going to work 2 years ahead of time, things like how to access memory, process graphics etc., you wouldnt have to wait on the physical development of the console to make the games for it...just food for thought
Yep, But i see those PC vs. Console threads sometimes, and thinkQuote:
Originally posted by dP munky
>>This just points out how powerfull PC's are
well think about it, games take anywhere from 12 to 24 months to develop. now imagine if you had to wait to release a console because you didnt have games for it. if you have the idea of how things are going to work 2 years ahead of time, things like how to access memory, process graphics etc., you wouldnt have to wait on the physical development of the console to make the games for it...just food for thought
to myself that PC will win anyway, always, so why open a thread
about it? The only reason console's survive is because of it's
price and it's speed (no need for an os).
And compatibility. Anyone with an XBox can play any XBox game.
Well, You can play most PC games on your PC but getting a niceQuote:
Originally posted by frenchfry164
And compatibility. Anyone with an XBox can play any XBox game.
FPS is a different question. Also Console's save you from most
problems on PC's (onstability,drivers,hardware conflicts etc.),
You must really be familiar with PC's if you want to get around
with em nicely.
You know what I meant :p. I actually ran Jedi Knight on a 486 33 MHz and it ran smooth.
I'd love to hear your definition of smooth:p .Quote:
Originally posted by frenchfry164
I actually ran Jedi Knight on a 486 33 MHz and it ran smooth.
not smooth as in where it doesn't skip, smooth enough to where it is playable. It just took 10 minutes to load a level:D. I think it had 19MB of RAM on it.
Aah yes, Jedi Knight, Those where the days... *snik snik*Quote:
Originally posted by frenchfry164
not smooth as in where it doesn't skip, smooth enough to where it is playable. It just took 10 minutes to load a level:D. I think it had 19MB of RAM on it.
well like travis said, thats why people eat up the consoles, because the gpu and the cpu are devoted to 1 thing at a time, no HD (except for xbox) you could never get a computer to run a game perfect.....well....there is always alienware :)
Alienware makes excellent cooled cases right?:confused:Quote:
Originally posted by dP munky
there is always alienware :)
Well, It's possible to make a game run perfect on a PC but
it's sure a hell of alot work!
alienware makes excellent everything... the cases are designed for the specific purpose to keep everything inside cool, the motherboards they use are good, the graphics cards are always the best, and they specially make every computer, (small company <100 employees) then after they have all the best hardware, they tweak it for the best possible performance, but then again, is it worth 2100???.........::snicker:: yeah!
they also have some hardware that normally you can't buy. You could buy a Alienware computer with a Radeon 9700 b4 you could buy the Radeon 9700.
?? That seems a bit odd? Probably won't make much differenceQuote:
Originally posted by frenchfry164
they also have some hardware that normally you can't buy. You could buy a Alienware computer with a Radeon 9700 b4 you could buy the Radeon 9700.
in time.