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Control of Congress--and thus whether President Bush's legislation will easily pass through--rests on a few very close Senate and House races. In Missouri, residents have been bombarded with political advertising for and against either incumbent Democrat Jean Carnahan or Republican Jim Talent as well as advertising for various state constitutional amendments and referendums.
The question is will you be voting this Tuesday?
I would like to vote tomorow but I will be at school from 8am-8pm and my polling place is 45 minutes away, my longest break during the day is 30 mins so I wont have a chance to vote :(
Actually, if I'm thinking correctly, you may go vote and be excused from school because of it. I think this also applies to getting off of work as well. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm not going to vote; I don't want to. I'm old enough, I have
plenty of time... Still though, I'm not going to.
Did, thank you.
ethic, I'm saddened. :(
-Skipper
Floridian here.
Voted for Jeb (Because he has devious plans)
Voted against the class size amendment.
Voted for the restaurant smoking ban
Voted Thruman (D, incumbant) for Congress
Voted mostly republican in the locals
I was going to vote absentee, but I forgot about it for too long and then it was too late to get an app.
Didn't matter - the candidate I would have voted for for governor won by a huge margin (Jennifer Granholm - MI's first female gov)
Hmm
Jeb won. Good!
Indoor smoking ban passed. Good!
Reduced Class Size amendment still out. Hope it does not pass.
Thurman lost. Bad.
The constitutional amendment preventing the enclosure of a pregnant pig passed. Ummmmm.....
I'm not from Florida but...
Jeb won. Bad! - simply because I don't like W that much and I think Jeb won because of who is brother is and not because of what he can do for the state.
Indoor smoking bad pass. Good!
Reduced Class Size passed. AWSOME! The most important thing in our economy (LONG TERM), which is rapidly becoming a pure service based economy, is education. Smaller classes give MUCH better education.
Thruman lost. Isn't he really really old and retired in SC? Maybe I'm missing something.
The constitutional amendment preventing the enclosure of a pregnant pig passed. I'm going to assume you're full of it, but I say let them run free!
Kermi, don't you live in Sweden?
Nope, born and raised in Louisiana. I proudly come from the most corrupt and the 49th out of 50th education state in teh nation. And we're great for buisness too! (And that's way more specific than I've ever gotten before hehe.)
> Kermi, don't you live in Sweden?
I think you're looking for kooma... (where the hell'd that guy run off to?)
> Isn't he really really old and retired in SC? Maybe I'm missing something.
You're looking for Strom Thurmond...
Added by Kermi3:
shhhhhh that's all secret gov!!!!!!! :rolleyes: man, i knew he couldn't keep a secret!
Jeb was gov two years before GW was president.Quote:
Originally posted by kermi3
Jeb won. Bad! - simply because I don't like W that much and I think Jeb won because of who is brother is and not because of what he can do for the state.
I voted against this because I've never had a problem finding restaruants with no smoking. I can't stand the smell of smoke but I don't feel I have any right to tell someone how to run their business.Quote:
Indoor smoking bad pass. Good!
Good argument but we should never force the government to spend more than it has. This is cause for immediate cuts or tax increase. I'm not happy about that fact. I'm sure it will mean an increase in my property tax.Quote:
Reduced Class Size passed. AWSOME! The most important thing in our economy (LONG TERM), which is rapidly becoming a pure service based economy, is education. Smaller classes give MUCH better education.
Nope, this was really on the ballot. :rolleyes: Some environmentalists didn't like the fact that farmers caged pregnant pigs. But.... there's a reason. Pigs apparently trample their young and kill them. They are confined in such a way as to save the lives of the young pigs. This is going to probably mean a load of difficulty for farmers. But "Save the Pigs" emotionally charges people and crap like this passes.Quote:
The constitutional amendment preventing the enclosure of a pregnant pig passed. I'm going to assume you're full of it, but I say let them run free!
Of course he was gov for 2 years (1/2 a term) before GW was pres. But to get reelected his borther made 12 campaign trips to the state and raised tons of money. It was still a close race even with all of the money he raised and when he made every effor to link himself with his brother and take advantage of his brother's endorsement.Quote:
Jeb was gov two years before GW was president.
I agree with you, it isn't a good thing at all...however, in the long term only the well educated are going to be able to do well in this economy we are creating (this is another problem and arguement unto itself). Therefore by striving to educate everyone, not just those that can afford non-public schools, we are ensuring in the future that the economy will be better. Moreover, children of educated people are many times more likely (I have the figuress somewhere) to be as well educated, or more educated than their parents, so the cycle continues.Quote:
Good argument but we should never force the government to spend more than it has. This is cause for immediate cuts or tax increase. I'm not happy about that fact. I'm sure it will mean an increase in my property tax.
I'll note that while we used to be near the top of the list of national rate of high school graduation, we are now down to 23rd, and while we've dropped that far automation, and our trade deficet are still growing tramendously. I have no problem with automation, but if people don't have the skills to get jobs after their jobs are taken over by machines we have a diffrent problem that must be addressed.
"Save the Pigs"...
LOL, well, i suppose this is what's best for the pigs...but why the heck was a constitutional ammendment needed???? Why not a simple law? :rolleyes:
First, the class size amendment bit, <snl character="BushSr"> its bad, bad!</snl>
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not against education, but you are talking about a $2billion+ proposal to lower class size, which has not been proven conclusively to have any affect on educational quality.
Jeb FCAT plan may be no better, but at least its much much cheaper.
Second, this pigs bit, yep, its is now part of the state constitution. No joke.
And the indoor smoking ban...
Its not a matter of business practice, its a matter of public health. In four words: Cigarette smoke causes cancer.Quote:
I don't feel I have any right to tell someone how to run their business.
It
First of all, as someone who as taught, and been taught, I can tell you absolutely (especially from the teacher point of view) that small class sizes is key. Especially in elementry schools. There are various reasons for this, and to be honest I'm simply too lazy to type them all out right now hehe :D. However, I do agree with you that 2 billion is a lot of money, but it is something that should be done. Especially in elementry schools. However, some of this money would be better spen raising teacher saleries and benifits to ensure that top quality teacher are in teh schools. Lets be honest, I bet this nation looses a while lot of it's best teacehrs to the workplace because that's where the money is.Quote:
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not against education, but you are talking about a $2billion+ proposal to lower class size, which has not been proven conclusively to have any affect on educational quality.
The Lazy,
Kermi3
And fatty food causes obesity. I have a choice not to eat it just as I have a choice not to frequent a restaurant that allows smoking. There are lots of examples. Outdoor restaurants for instance.... sun has been proven to cause skin cancer. Should it be illegal for a restaurant to provide an outside eating area? Or even to only have an outdoor eating area? There were choices BEFORE this law. I never ate around smokers. You know why? because I wasn't forced to eat at a given restaurant.Quote:
Originally posted by Imperito
Its not a matter of business practice, its a matter of public health. In four words: Cigarette smoke causes cancer.
But the difference is that if I eat fatty food, I am not affecting the other patrons of the restaurant. Or the staff, who incidentally don't usually have the choice not be in contact with people who are smoking.
This argument has been done here in Florida to great extent, and the amendment passed by millions of voters.
first of all, ammendments should only be done through legislative people. That's a flaw. You can't expect voters to get the whole picture of the implications by a short blurb of text. Emotions play too big a role.
second, like I said, you had a choice not to be effected by second hand smoke. You never needed government to make that decision for you.
*Does wild victory dance* Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's a good day to be a conservative. Shake it, baby. Mmm, yeah. We had all the money, we had all the votes, now we have all the fun. Cha-Ching! Cha-Ching! Cha-Ching! How does it feel to be a liberal bleeding heart bedwetting democrat? Time to get out the party shoes! Suck it Daschle! Republican Revolution part II! Hell yeah!
Sorry. I needed to get that out of my system.
The results are in for Missouri. Rep. Dick Gephardt (Democrat, House minority leader) has yet another term in office. St. Louis County executive "Buzz" Westfall was also re-elected. According to the media, Missouri has a Republican-majority legislature for the first time in about fifty years; I have to say I contributed to that: I voted for a Republican house representative instead of the conservative, virtual Republican Democrat.
The smokers seem to have gotten out in big numbers to keep the price of cigarettes down. Proposition A, to increase the sales tax per pack of cigarettes by 55 cents, was narrowly defeated. Maybe it's these same smokers (more often Republican, I'd say) who caused the most important defeated for the Democrats:
In the Senate race in Missouri, incumbent Jean Carnahan (Dem.) lost to Republican Jim Talent! :mad: A Republican presidency, House of Representatives, Senate, and conservative Supreme Court is something to fear: America has spoken, and they want Bush for king.
Many nonsmokers enjoy the dining experience had at restaurants. They would not like to be limited to fast-food restaurants but rather experience all the nonchain restaurants, which, from my experience, almost always allow smoking, at least in certain areas. I do not want smoke with my spaghetti, thank you very much. Having smoking sections is a very real determinant in choosing a restaurant at which to eat, and many nonsmokers choose the restaurant that has the right smoking policy. If you would like to destroy your lungs while eating, do it at home and allow other people to enjoy their meal.Quote:
FillYourBrain wrote:
second, like I said, you had a choice not to be effected by second hand smoke. You never needed government to make that decision for you.
Cruxus, I'm not sure who you were siding with there.... :confused:
Doesn't matter. I hate smoke and cigarettes. Make no mistake. I just consider myself a big boy and can choose the restaurant on my own. I don't need daddy government to force everyone to live that way.
The damn republicans better not waste this opportunity to desocialize the country. I was playing with the budget the other day, and I managed to cut a couple hundred billion in about 15 minutes. It was cool.
I wasn't going to vote. And then I did. Ahhh the hypocrocy of it all.
Turns out the booths were right at the end of my street in a church. I was out checking the mail... went over... they said, "Are going to vote!" I said, "Is my name on the list." They said, "Yep".
And there I was staring at a half a page of judges that wanted to keep there jobs. Having only seen a couple of judges in my life... I figured 'Yes' was the correct answer to those questions.
As far as everything else.... it was all a blur.
I'm kinda disturbed that you know any judges well enough to recognize their names...
I'm kinda disturbed that in the most powerful democracy in the world, at a time where the worlds future is at stake, less than 50% of voters bother to vote.
But then I come from a place where >95% of voters turn out (or get fined $20).
The news reports even said this was a big turn out because of the interest of minority groups in the referendum.
All the news reports here say it is a resounding victory for GWB's war on Iraq. The people here seem more concerned with the price of smokes.
Normally mid terms only get 30 to 40%. Does that mean most people in the US would prefer NO government as they can't be bothered choosing one?
You fail to realize that most american actuly don't relize that there are not just two parties. From how they campain the only thing that poltical oppenites seem to run on is what is negitive about the other guy.
Who care about vote???
Nobody care about of your vote power any way.
Living in this century of Hi-Technology, but cheating and stealing votes still happens, and this problem is still going on and on because political parties nurture it and dont want to strongly resolve this problem. It's really ridiculous to
hear that voting machines got errors or counting machines count
the votes wrong, networks announce incorrectly and many more problems. Who believe that???
With this era of modern and high Technology, even a cent in a
vending machine(without human monitor) get count correctly and
exactly. If the coke costs 50 cents and you just put in the vending machine 49 cents, you never have chance to have a drink unless
begging one more cent from people around you.
People will fed up with this kind of suck election voting.
KingoftheWorld
I guess so!