lightatdawn.cprogramming.com

The webmaster has been kind enough to give the Moderators the option of having a site hosted here. I took him up on the offer and just finished uploading a few things. My old site is gone and nobody (including myself) will miss it.

The concept of the new site is to help someone new to programming, and anxious to get into something interesting (weren't we all?). Starting off with a few basic concepts and then on to a 4 step Text Game (which i've totally revised from previous versions) which should lead a newbie through to enlightenment. ;)

Since I havent had the time to be incredibly careful checking it over, theres likely to be some mistakes. Please point 'em out and I'll jump on it. I'll also be uploading new things, additions, and edits as I find/make them.

http://lightatdawn.cprogramming.com

i suggest either changing the background or the foreground text color so they don't blend together as easily.

good job ;)

dang! ygf beat me to it. That's the only thing I can see that would need improvement. Overall I like the site, but the light blue text blends in with the background making it really hard to read.

Are you kidding me? It's ugly as sin! No offense :) I liked your old site better, l@d.

>>changing the background

Darker now. That was what I was thinking too. Better now?

>>Are you kidding me? It's ugly as sin!

Aw stick it up yer.... FAQ hole.

>>I liked your old site better, l@d.

Sweet wasnt it. Not updated for years. Horrible contrast. 4000 pictures. 0 content.

>>[email protected]<<

Typo?

Thanks. I'll fix that and changes will take place next time I upload.

Are you color blind?

? Maybe a screenshot of what you're seeing would help? Everything looks quite nice from here. Mostly blue. The darker background fixed any contrast problems that existed before. You seeing something else or are you just fsking with with me?

The links are one of the colors that are not good. There is more though. All of the titles
1)..
2)...
3)...
etc. Those colors do not show up well either.

The links in boarders are fine, just the hyperlinks in the text.

I see this . Which I believe should be what everyone sees. If I turn both my brightness and contrast way down then it becomes slightly difficult to differentiate between the links darker colour and the background. But by this point my screen is so dark i cant differentiate between anything at all so...

Is anyone else having any difficulties (at all) in reading the links?

Now that the background is pure white the links are fine, the boarders and the text inside them is fine, but the supporting body of text is extremely difficult to see. The problem is satifying both the links outside the boarded links and the body of text on the webpage.

i'm not seeing what you're seeing. the bg on the site for me is white and incredibly hard to see stuff.

Oops. Last update was screwed up. Fixed the background (i think). Changed the links to a lighter colour. Will fix the rest of the headings colour at some later point.

Some of the website material is very dated. A lot of information is missing.

The website material could use some serious revison. Is it worth it though? How are people going to be made aware of the website other than this post?

>>A lot of information is missing.

Should I even bother responding to that?

>>The website material could use some serious revison.

This is true, and it will get at least minor revision in the next few days. Keep in mind that it has a specific purpose and I dont intend to go off on various other topics. Feel free to be a little more specific however, and there'll be updates and changes as time permits.

>>Some of the website material is very dated.

Considering most of the content was written years ago, I'm not surprised. I updated it before upload and obviously created a new format, but please point out specifics and I'll do the repairs.

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Well it might not be worth it. That's why I'm wondering how the website is going to be made known to potential visitors. If there is going to be lots of visitors than it would be worth supplementing the main site with your website.

I'm not critcising the C code examples, at least I didn't notice any problems with them at a glace, but I am criticising everything else. It's kind of like this website. It's as if people have been studying C/C++ here for years but have not learned anything.

There is a great deal of substance to what I am saying here but it doesn't appear that you intend to do much more than create a toy website. it's disapointing to see this, especially from the moderators.

>> There is a great deal of substance to what I am saying here but it doesn't appear that you intend to do much more than
>>create a toy website. it's disapointing to see this, especially from the moderators.

It is begining to come to my attention that you have a lot of words and very little meaning.

No, I have no intention of having some grand website. Thats not my interest at all. I'm just putting something out to help people who have questions. Maybe in a format that some will find more fun and useful than a textbook. I dont mean to make a big deal out of it. I just hope someone gets anything out of it. I know there are at least a few that have learned from the examples so thats really all I care about. *shrug* Its obviously not intended for experienced coders. Its just intended to put the new guy on the right path.

I'm done for the night. The only thing keeping me from falling asleep on my desk is that damn light from the laser mouse everytime my head bumps it.

I don't see anything around here or your website that puts anyone on the right path.

The right path is loaded with detail. It's so loaded with detail that the beginner only sees a small percentage of it, but at the same time it should burn an image in their mind, an image of power, and a sense of knowing that they have to return at all costs.

TK, for all your philosophizing, you give very little specific information about what the right path is supposed to be. You might as well be taking a theory of knowledge class for all you're saying about programming.

In the first section for beginners, in the title, "Introduction" is misspelled.
For the printf example, maybe it could be clearer how the % variable in the output and the formatting match. Easy enough if you already know it, but if you don't, you could have no idea what it means.
Pretty good overall.

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Originally posted by lightatdawn
The webmaster has been kind enough to give the Moderators the option of having a site hosted here. I took him up on the offer and just finished uploading a few things. My old site is gone and nobody (including myself) will miss it.

The concept of the new site is to help someone new to programming, and anxious to get into something interesting (weren't we all?). Starting off with a few basic concepts and then on to a 4 step Text Game (which i've totally revised from previous versions) which should lead a newbie through to enlightenment. ;)

Since I havent had the time to be incredibly careful checking it over, theres likely to be some mistakes. Please point 'em out and I'll jump on it. I'll also be uploading new things, additions, and edits as I find/make them.

http://lightatdawn.cprogramming.com

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you need to cover gcc for 'nix on your compiler page; it is more popular and more common then many of the compilers you have listed there.

>>In the first section for beginners, in the title, "Introduction" is misspelled.

What. You didnt like my Intorduction? ;) Thanks. Typos likely abound. I'll add some more to printf as well.

>>you need to cover gcc

Good point. I only covered the compilers I've actually used and own. I'll update Dev-C and add gcc soon.

Updated again. Better link/heading colours. A few minor additions/changes including to printf section and Dev-C write-up.

Thanks for the proofing guys. Keep it coming.

What, no code tags? Shame on you! :D

Something like you are doing could be an extension of the FAQ, a bit like the idea suggested here. Is this you're intention, or are you just playing with ideas at present?

I'll eventually format the code and place it on tables to make things easier to read. Eventually.

>>Something like you are doing could be an extension of the FAQ

As there may soon be a new FAQ section to this site, it would be possible to link to it somewhere. Not sure what the webmaster would think about that. Mainly I'm just throwing it out there right now. It seems likely that I'll be pointing people to it who ask questions regarding many of the things I cover there. A simpler and more detailed method and without having to repeat answers a hundred million times. I would like it to be fairly comprehensive though. A useful resource to the newbie game developer, maybe.

At this point almost any suggestions will be taken into serious consideration. I'm gone for the day but I'll be back tomorrow with any updates suggested.

It's still insanely ugly. Sorry. I'm just an ass :) I can never find a webdesign that I like...mine's OK (for the ACOS site), and the front page here is OK...but that's it :p

Want some good ideas, go to vasanth's site. It looks very nice and modern. Probably would take a while to duplicate though.

Less interested about look than function. As long as its not hidious (and I dont think it is) then thats fine. I just want its navigation to be intuitive and its content useful.

>>Probably would take a while to duplicate though.

Exactly. And time is not something I have to waste on its appearance.

I'd still like to hear from anyone who would like to see something in particular included.

I actually like the colors. They're almost as rad as my grey-on-black
design... :)