Here i have created a new thread
and people if u want to say anything say, as there is no ILLEGAL thing about educating people about hacking/cracking.
But performing hacking/cracking under certain boundries whcih are really dim is illegal.
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Here i have created a new thread
and people if u want to say anything say, as there is no ILLEGAL thing about educating people about hacking/cracking.
But performing hacking/cracking under certain boundries whcih are really dim is illegal.
Was it your server space? I highly doubt it was. It was your input, you volunteered it to the board willing in a peaceful manner, and someone though that it was inapropriate for this board. It was deleted. Cry about it . Put it on another hacking board and you'll still get flamed there too! So DON'T EVEN TRY!
u dont need to post it twice u may go to "watever happend to hacking thread to se my reply"
::sigh:: :rolleyes:
Dayknight, any information we give you, I know you'll use it in the wrong ways...
You can't study to be a hacker.. you can't read tutorials on how to become a hacker... if or when you ever get to the stage of being a hacker, you'll know it.
For now, soak up any information you can relating to computers and how they work... it's that simple.
This thread needs to be deleted :)
CAT fish....
dont know wat say to u...
here pm me ur ip, and i bet u thousands $$$$ that within 2 months u will see a .txt or something on ur desktop.
(plz dont open ur firewall, lol)
cuz i know in 2 months i wont be able to break into firewalls
:D
24.222.58.100
Happy hunting!
You just proved to me that your intentions are harmful.. therefore it can be assumed that any information we provide you with will be used in an illegal/unlawful manner
The one with the quote bout, lynux-penguin, your right, that guy gave me a link that crashed my computer, never open this link (note i added the spaces so that it was unclickable:
http:// www. cyberarmy .com / crash.***
/*Assume this web site will crash your computer, you don't need to try it. -Moderator */
lynux-penguin is a malicious, virus crunching, a - hole
i didnt say that i will damage any data or hardware
i said i will prove it to u, that if u try u can hack
and u sure this is urs
24.222.58.100
and i dont want to break in into ur neighbours comp
so, why you change your screen name? and what the heck are you talking about, you said that if i was i hacker i could crack the pass. on that site, so i generously accepted, yet it wasn't a test it was a malicious prank. what was all that text above mean?
Look at the FTP address in my signature.. I'm sure you'll find it to be the same.
Big deal, that Cyberarmy page just shows you how insecure Windows browsers are, IE 6.0 fixes all of these 'crashes'. No harm was done to your computer... move on.
no, don't close it! this is too funny to close
fyi, it did harm my computer maybe not permentantly but it ****ed up my active desktop, and it slowed it down for a while, it took work to get it going again, work that i shouldn't have had to do, your example makes no sense. what was the point of that? again you were supposed to test me? and r u lynex penguin, if you are and htat knight guy is, or whatever, if you have that many screen names, then you probably r looking out to be malicious, it's harder to track you down and kick you off, if you change names often. i have gotten over it., but arg... you ........ me off lynex penguin.
Who are you accusing of being Lynex-Penguin or whatever his name is?
Active Desktop? Click "Restore my Active Desktop"
Restart your computer... All harm is done. A friend sent me that link... I clicked on it. And you know what? The first thing that came to me was "I wonder how that was done". That my friend is a fundamental question.
You need a role model.
Most programmers grow out of the destructive hacking mentality. I can only assume that you're young and inexperienced by your posts. You're not a hacker just because you can run a program someone else wrote and gain access to a computer.
A true "hacker" will write his own software and read through thousands of lines of code to get information and understanding. They have a broad knowledge of computer architecture, hardware and software. This is not stuff you can easily pick up in a weekend or read in a tutorial. Most "hackers" use a UNIX OS but are familiar with the internal workings of operating systems in general. They also know different networking protocols and the structure behind them. They are fluent in multiple programming languages, assembly and C being languages of choice.
If you want to become a hacker, then join an open-source project and contribute something or modify a program to extend its functionality. Don't spend your time looking for simple tutorials and expect to become "elite".
On a side note, hackers are literate and they use proper grammar.
i don;'t know who im accusing, it just seems weird that after posting some messages to reply to lynex penguin about why he did that, and what it had to do with password cracking, he , and my posts, disapeared? then i see someones sig. that says to bash the penguin, i just thought that might be some cover up. and to tell u the trueth, when i clicked it, i didn't know exactly what happened, because the dialup internet icon disapeared from the system tray (windows). and my computer slowed down, my desktop turned white and said Desktop Recovery, i thought that he somehow virused me. ok? i just wanna know where he want, i tryed to help people by telling them how to manupulate juno to get no ads, no time, and he started messing with me. Knowledge is power, spreading it does not make me a bad person. It's not like he's ever pirated something, stole cable, burned a cd/game, or anything like that. right?
127.0.0.1Quote:
Originally posted by Dual-Catfish
Dayknight, any information we give you, I know you'll use it in the wrong ways...
You can't study to be a hacker.. you can't read tutorials on how to become a hacker... if or when you ever get to the stage of being a hacker, you'll know it.
For now, soak up any information you can relating to computers and how they work... it's that simple.
This thread needs to be deleted :)
:p ok heres my ip plz scan me and try your sub7 on me but i have to warn you i will break your box if you do... have fun trying to do anything to my freebsd 4.5 box...
dayknight, you are on par with minime for n00bn3ss, except you are all talk, naivite, and no skill. At least minime could program.
We could trace your IP and have you arrested if you maliciously hacked into one of our systems. Trust me, when you are on these boards, we can trace your IP to your house adress (with the right software).
This is so pathetic. Dayknight and Pirate need to have a little sleep-over lan party and just take turns failing to hack each others systems. Get all that preteen anguish out of their system. Then after they prove that they have no clue, maybe they'll get over it.
here's my opinion (though everyone probably knows what i'm gonna say):
don't hack. before you think about that, though, disregard all laws designed to criminalize hacking. what are you doing?
first: can you hack? can you hack without getting caught? why are you hacking? is there something else you could be spending your time on? what would you hack? is it worth your time?
second: what would happen if you failed at hacking? is there a chance your isp could ban you? is this ethical?
third: if you're going to hack despite what everyone says, why would you talk to the people at cprogramming.com about it, a board with a collection of active moderators? who here has expressed interest in anything you have said?
y was my post deleted when i posted a massage about a perticular wesite? i'm not gonna say it again cause this might also get deleted....this is not fair, ppl didn't have to go 2 that site if they didn't wanna...it was completely up to them, I had nothing to do with it....(after i posted the site)
I guess it was fair.....the mods didn't like it and they have the right to do whatever the hell they want:DQuote:
this is not fair
damn right!;)
so, can i post some comments on the site i was taking about earlier without getting the post/the whole thread deleted?
"127.0.0.1
ok heres my ip plz scan me and try your sub7 on me "
lol, yeah, if your going to hack, then it is _imparative_ that you put Sub7 on the computer with the ip of 127.0.0.1.
Yes. Definitely :)Quote:
lol, yeah, if your going to hack, then it is _imparative_ that you put Sub7 on the computer with the ip of 127.0.0.1.
pirate198:
Some of us get paid to write software. Most of us want to get paid to write software.
That makes this a bad place to brag how you have/can stolen software. (probably just regugitating the exploit anyway)
I saw the thread with LPenguin and that was what you were doing. Nether is CD or DK is LPenguin.
If you had read the link you may have got some idea that it would crash your browser.
Anyone can tell a wannabe from a packet-monkey because the lamers think they look cool typing in leet speek.
Most the time I refuse to grant myself the relief of flaming a "novice want-to-be hacker."
This is one of the few times I will speak my peace about someone approaching a,
VERY serious and sensitive subject, in an unprofessional and child like manner.
What is a hacker?
A hacker is one who has a very massive knowledge-base of networks, protocols, services, and most importantly computers.
When I refer to "computers" I mean everything from, the processor and BIOS, to each individual service performed by operating system.
!!! I know many hackers !!!
I myself have learned from some of the finest I've ever see. But I didn't learn to hack. And still to this day have not wished to do so.
Being a hacker is not about what systems you can gain "root" to, but about how well you know your trade.
You are far from knowing what it feels like to do something that all will be thankful for.
If you continue your umm....
What word am I looking for?
ahhh BTW you will need your dictionary for this one....
Incognizable post, you will continue to be flamed at an alarming rate.
I personally believe this is your intent.
I have reviewed some of your previous post, including the post made your supposed aliases.
In this analyze my conclusions where suitable.
I have found that your questions are based on a primitive and weak understanding
of the basic concepts of object oriented programming. Those leads me to believe you're a very inexperienced in the social aspect of life.
Now these things are normal as to your height and voice changing.
You will also feel urgent needs which you haven't experienced before.
Also I should warn you about certain emotions which you may
begin to feel, but I believe that is the responsibility of your legal parent of gardein.
Puberty is something which we all will go through. You aggression is understandable at your age and should be easily predictable but you must learn to keep it under control.
If you wish to become a hacker, then I will suggest a web site.
Everyone should find it useful.
http://www.faqs.org/
This site contains every protocol I can think of and more.
Thank you for your time.
"Knowledge is power."
And dayknight my friend, you are powerless.
HAHAHAHA! :) I love it! Nor, that is classic!Quote:
Originally posted by Nor
"Knowledge is power."
And dayknight my friend, you are powerless.
The moderators, and more importantly the owner of this board (the webmaster) have no problems discussing, debating, or argueing over hacking (in an intelectual manner). However, any posts that activly aide someone, or could aide someone in hacking (ie posting a how to web site, or a site that log's ip's to hack) will be deleted.Quote:
so, can i post some comments on the site i was taking about earlier without getting the post/the whole thread deleted?
If you wish to talk about the site fine, but if it helps people illegally hack don't bother please do not post it here.
Kermi3
so that site is a no, cause it tells u how to get started in hacking!
You want to learn how to hack?
If so listen up!!!!
First off get your mom to buy you a computer.
Then get a couple of programming books. Good ones to.
Once you can program. (And know what the he|| you are doing)
Study up on protocols. Learn EVERYTHING you can about deep breath
sockets TCP/IP NetBIOS telnet Routing
switches hubs UNIX shell programming
html http smtp pop2 pop3 https
php java java script c c++ basic
AsM windowsAPI processes hexEdItOrs
PERL CGI tunnels etc. etc. etc. etc.
If you can understand all that AND (&&) !(&) but (&&)
be able to find techniques to use on a service, to gain root to your target box. (MeAnIng no bull s$%t viruses) then consider yourself a hacker.
BOY = dayknight
If you ever have the ability of everything previously mentioned plus alot more
Then and only then present yourself as a hacker!
Note the bold present.
A HACKER NEVER CALLS HIM/HER SELF BY SUCH A NAME.
But others do.
What is a hacker? The definitionn of the word hack means to chop or cut in an abstract way. Loosely put, you could "hack up" something quick for a friend. Say like, with a car, or stereo or something. What is a computer hacker though? The true SOLID definition of the word, in which the context you place it, has escaped me for years. A computer "hacker" is a slang, therefore, it is as irellevant as the word pee. Pee = urine.
Hacker...hm. Get a life. :)
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hack...o.html#WHAT_IS
What I see as the best definition.
The Jargon File contains a bunch of definitions of the term `hacker',
The best definition for something coming fromm a jargon file?
This goes back to my slang argument. It isn't something that really has or will be set in stone and has a solid "dictionary" term. Therefore I will never care about the word.
I respect people who know alot about computers. Many people at this site included! Basically, to me there is no such thing as a hacker. If you get into the argument of people "solve problems" with computers....I don't know who put the notion in your head that that is a hacker, but that's wrong. The word hacker is one of the most iffy words out there. Find a dictionary...look in your house, look at dictionary.com and try to find something that accurately describes this thread and it's related content. You won't.
pulls out The New Hacker's Dictionary: Third Edition
Hacker n. [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe]
1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary.
2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.
3. A person capable of appreciating hack value.
4. A person who is good at programming quickly.
5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in a 'Unix hacker'. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.)
[note: going to skip 6 and 7 as they are non computer versions of the word that doesnt apply to the current discussion --Dalren]
8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence password hacker, network hacker. The correct term for this sense is cracker.
The term 'hacker' also tends to connote membership in the global community defined by the net. It aslo implies that the person described is seen to subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic.
It is better to be descrived as a hacker by others than to describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new members are gladly welcome. There is thus a certian ego satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but if you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled bogus)
So did you get that out of a webster? If not that is a book catering to the word hacker. It is not a standard dictionary. A standard dictionary would not have a defintion for what has been discussed here because what has been discussed here is not a word that's standard. If you found the word hacker in a standard dictionary I am sure that it would be listed as a slang. It's just like profanity. It's just like the word cool. It's a slang. It is something that has been created by someone. It was created by someone who was impressed by the skills of a friend who was an avid computer user. I will most definately not use the same volcabulary another person decided to CREATE because they could not find another phrase or word.
I just did a search. Webster's collegiate thesaurus did not return any results for hacker.
Anyhow, it is a word I will never care about. Bicker at will!
later...
From my Oxford Minireference Dictionary & Thesaurus:
hacker n. (colloq.) computer enthusiast, esp. one in gaining unauthorized access to files.
>>>CAT fish....
dont know wat say to u...
here pm me ur ip, and i bet u thousands $$$$ that within 2 months u will see a .txt or something on ur desktop.
(plz dont open ur firewall, lol)
cuz i know in 2 months i wont be able to break into firewalls
<<<
I got a nice honeypot for you if you want to try to hack me... got a few really decent Sub7 emulation programs too.
Don't think your mommy really wants to lose her ISP though, so perhaps you should stay away from people that have been in the game longer than you.
This is the wrong place to come to hack... you could find yourself in a dangerous situation.
after reading this i have to say: i have a lot more respect for most of you guys. thanks for keeping it modest and honest :)
>>>A HACKER NEVER CALLS HIM/HER SELF BY SUCH A NAME.
But others do.<<<
Well said... I am a Security Consultant ;)
as I said in the post its from the third edition of The New Hacker's DictonaryQuote:
Posted By Shadow:
So did you get that out of a webster?
Its an actual book published by MIT press and compiled by Eric S. Raymond. He also wrote The Cathedral And The Bazzar a book on the open source movement. The book is a dictionary of computer, internet, and 'net culture terms. Buy It at amazon.com