Want to be the greatest game maker of all time?(interesting discussion topic)

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04-04-2002
Ruflano

Want to be the greatest game maker of all time?(interesting discussion topic)

Well, I have the same goal. In order to achieve that I must conquer others who are also aiming for that goal. Here are the steps that I'm taking to reach my desired level of superiority:

1. Play Vide Games(done)
2. Love Games(done)
3. Learn C++(done)*
4. Learn Win32(just started)
5. Learn Opengl
6. Get high grades in school(trying to)
7. Go to digipen(hard task)
8. Find a company to work for(most American companies are bad at making games, ie: Accliam)
9. If I have enough dinero, I could start my own game making company(but its impossible to be CEO and game designer/programmer at the same time).
10. MAke better games than Shigeru Miyamoto(I truely believe I could do this).
11. Be labeled as the greatest game designer/programmer of all time.
04-04-2002
Fordy

Maybe add....

[list=1][*]Work like a beast[*]Lose the need to sleep[*]Love what you do[/list=1]
04-04-2002
Magos

Re: Want to be the greatest game maker of all time?(interesting discussion topic)

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Originally posted by Ruflano
10. MAke better games than Shigeru Miyamoto(I truely believe I could do this).
11. Be labeled as the greatest game designer/programmer of all time.

Don't you think you're aiming a little bit too high...?
04-04-2002
pode

why share these things with us??!

maybe we will just steal your ideas now!
:p
04-04-2002
jdinger

Re: Re: Want to be the greatest game maker of all time?(interesting discussion topic)

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Originally posted by Magos

Don't you think you're aiming a little bit too high...?

12) Make better games than John Romero (post-id).

Would this be considered aiming a bit too low...?

C'mon! Let's here it for Hyper Space Delivery Boy!!!
04-04-2002
Dual-Catfish

Shoot for the moon; Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars!

[Hey, don't kill me, I saw it on a lame poster in school]
04-04-2002
Magos

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Originally posted by Dual-Catfish
Shoot for the moon; Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars!

...or will end up floating away into the cold vast eternity forever :)...
04-04-2002
taylorguitarman

Well if you're going to be the greatest game maker ever that makes my goals easier.

- Be better than you.

Thanks for taking all the hard work out of it. ;)
04-05-2002
Syneris

i'd be fine with not being the greatest programmer as long as i program the greatest game. Oh yes.. It will happen! Just gotta learn how to make all these ideas a reality
04-06-2002
Ruflano

no one could be better than me
04-06-2002
xds4lx

Actually Everyone is already better than you, even if they have only programmed for one day. I looked at your code and its horrible! Worse than spaghetti code in C!
04-07-2002
Xterria

oh my god dude, theres somthing wrong with you. Go take out your anger on Govtcheez or somthing. Why, do you have somthing aganst Ruflano? Because if you do, Violence is not the answer!!!!

unless dipped in butter...
04-07-2002
Bobish

i can see this post: http://www.cprogramming.com/cboard/s...threadid=14728

about to start up again honestly lets stop with these flame wars. And Ruflano if you think to highly of yourself people will just want to insult you.
04-07-2002
xds4lx

Hmm try talking with him, he started bothing me on AIM and wouldnt stop even after I nicely asked him to refrain from messaing me. I am not a violence person, but he has picked the last straw and i am sick of dealing with him.
04-08-2002
Coder

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3. Learn C++(done)*

I doubt this. C++ programming is a very complicated, deep subject that requires years of practice until you become a pro.

Paul "Midnight" Nettle has answered a question in his AskMidnight column ( www.flipcode.com/askmid ) that explains why learning C++ isn't that easy ( implicitly since the question's about practical proramming, as far as I recall )

C++ is a beast, what most of us do is just learn the simple side of C++, the beautiful face. This helps you make good games, but to make groundbreakers you have to be an expert ( John carmack is an EXPERT C & asm programmer, that's why his engines are the fastest/best )

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9. If I have enough dinero, I could start my own game making company(but its impossible to be CEO and game designer/programmer at the same time).

Noone starts as an entrepreneur ( I hope this is the right spelling ). If you want to be a Carmack/Molyneux, you have to start from the beginning - a beta tester, or if you're really good, a programmer.

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10. MAke better games than Shigeru Miyamoto(I truely believe I could do this).

Ehm, ehm... Who's Shigeru Miyamoto? Pardon my ignorance :)

Well, right after I'd read the name, I recalled that I read some article on gamespy about the "30 most influential people in the games industry", and I thought "Didn't I see that name in the 1st position? And then I didn't even read it ( cause I didn't know him )" I recall that I was shocked to find carcmack the 3rd ( not the 1st ) & Sid Meier the 2nd.

So I went back to the article and read the article to fix the ignorance issue here :)

So he's the one behind mario & zelda... hmmm. He's a great designer then, yet he does RPGs only right?

Well, that's not exactly the job of a programmer, if you know what I mean.
There on gamasutra, I read some interview with Tim Sweeny ( Unreal graphics engine maker ). He was asked about the "fun" factor & such, he said that it's not his job, and that his job is to work on the graphics engine....etc ( as far as I recall, I hope I haven't mistaken here )

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11. Be labeled as the greatest game designer/programmer of all time.

Don't work to be labeled as the greatest game maker. If you can't find self-satisfaction, that is if you can't be happy just for making games, don't make them.
You're going to face numerous problems when making games, and a lot of disappointments too. So unless you like it, you won't go on.

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12) Make better games than John Romero (post-id).

Would this be considered aiming a bit too low...?

Yeah, I recall that I saw some ad about the legendary ( heh heh ) daikatana and it had some pic of Mr Romero from some cool angles, with some text under it that says he was from the people behind Doom & Quake.

Maybe a couple of months later, I was reading through the Doom & quake source code, hoping to find something coded by him!
As far as I know, the only thing he's written is some DOS text-viewer that displays the readme file when you unpack the package ( The Wolf3D package, as far as I recall). Wow!

But isn't he just a level designer? His name was written in the "Designers" section, in Quake 1.

Just to add something :

13. Be experienced with computer hardware & internal operation.

John carmack has contributed a lot to the graphics cards industry, and he's been responsible for numerous new features.
Knowing the hardware is a key to writing good games software ( My point of view, not necessarily right )
04-09-2002
Coder

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Originally posted by Dual-Catfish
Shoot for the moon; Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars!

[Hey, don't kill me, I saw it on a lame poster in school]

Don't you think it should be inverted?! I mean " Shoot for the stars; Even if you miss, you'll land on the moon" seems more logical to me :)
04-09-2002
Golden Bunny

yeah, I concur
04-09-2002
doubleanti

>Shoot for the moon; Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars!

well actually like it is is correct considering the moon is [at any given moment] a finite destination, whereas the stars are of a much broader scope... then again, the moon is a lot closer than the stars, so if you don't reach your far star-oriented goals perhaps the moon is a suitable disposition...