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Hello,
I'm a mobile developer, and I do the most part of my development onboard mobile devices(almost Windows CE and Palm OS), and access this forum from a mobile is very painful, then I want to suggest the implementation of a mobile version of our forum, using one of those many plugins for vBulletin that anyone can find with a simple search. ;)
Best Regards,
Nathan Paulino Campos
I have the iPhone and I mostly hate those mobile versions as they are either pain to use or are incomplete.
If you create that mobile version please make it optional so there is some cookie that remembers my preference so I'm never again presented with the mobile version. I am typing this because I am for example avoiding Amazon on my iPhone because it always brings me back to the mobile version and each and every time I need to reset everything back to normal site.
In short, if you create mobile version, please, please make it optional.
I'm talking about Palms and Windows CE devices(as iPAQs and some Jornadas), not iPhones. ;)
the forum works fine on mobile browsers as it is really
Are the doing what they do with everything -- rather than just implement something that will work with existing (and open) standards, they intentionally screw it up so everyone has to write work-arounds for MS browsers, in the hopes they can leverage the market enough to make it follow them and turn incompetence into an advantage? Methinks they do not have enough share here to make this one work.Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanpc
I hope no one adds mobile versions for MS specific products. Let them fix their stupid software this time.
Isn't it the same with browsers? I mean, MS makes a ........ed up browser and makes everybody hack their CSS/HTML for long enough until it actually works in that browser (or, for the MS fanboys, in all other browsers).Quote:
Originally Posted by MK27
Yeah, that was my point. MS have partially determined the current form of the web because everybody must deal with CSS and JS limitations in IE that would not otherwise be an issue (working with screen dimensions and dynamic content techniques are big ones here). The whole place would be a lot less static cookie cutter + paste-in flash if not for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVOEx
On the other hand, total homogeneity is not a good goal, and competing technologies are not a bad thing. I am just suspicious that MS is more concerned with using difference to leverage market share, rather than focussing on it as a space in which to do new/innovative things. So they don't care if their implementation is better, as long is it is just different it serves the purpose (meaning it might as well be worse, who cares?)
I agree, but I think that Microsoft will never fix the errors on Internet Explorer 3 For Windows CE(the only browser that runs on Windows CE 3 devices). :(
Try to access this forum from a HP Jornada 720 is like trying to access it from the Internet Explorer 1 for Windows 3.11.
Take stock on what actually needs to happen here. Buy a new phone. The fact that you can make that comparison is sad.
-1 for your idea of mobile version of cboard.
reasons?
1) your phone is old, get a new one, as whiteflags said.
2) idelovski said he used an IPhone, althrough you were talking about
mobiles, in fact, IPhone has little differences from what we are talking
about.
btw, if anybody notices a problem in my reasons, please tell me!
I have a Palm T|X a iPAQ Hx2 and a HTC Touch Pro 2, but I still love to use(and develop) on my Jornada, because of the keyboard. ;)
Great, but you are right -- MS is not going to improve IE3, they already have an IE8. Anything previous to IE7 is a pain in the ___ for web developers because of all the work arounds you have to code. Here's my preferred method:
Redirect for IE6
Be sure to watch the video, it pretty much sums up.
Thumbs up on the Touch Pro 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanpc
My opinion is that you're really developing for what should soon enough be an obsolete service. Windows Phones are migrating to Windows Phone 7 soon which demands a WVGA or higher resolution. The iPhone trails a bit behind that size and Android matches it. Regardless of what you choose, you're bound to be accustomed to a full browsing experience in which I've found this forum to be fine. I'd say within a year, anyone that cares to own a PDA style phone will be trying to avoid mobile sites. As for the rest of the people... it's really a matter of upgrade or just accept that you can't really use the internet on your phone.
Besides, I think most people who choose to view this site while mobile do so through RSS.