learning c

Hi guys. I intend 2 teach myself programming. So i have collected all the books one needs in order to learn c++, all of them, no exception.
But I've decided to learn c as well, so now, i wanna collect all the books needed in order to learn c.
Can someone please tell me which books i need in order to completely learn c?
I've already got the c programming language 2nd edition, c language reference manual 5th edition, n1570 standard for C and i dunno how, but somehow i've got this book titled the practice of programming.
Can someone please help me?
Please do not post tutorials, i you do not know what I need, please don't answer.

Oh, now I remember. You're the person to whom I gave this piece of advice:

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Originally Posted by laserlight

Honestly, I suggest that you just start with Accelerated C++. If you find that you cannot learn with it, then look for alternatives. Don't go looking for alternatives first, or you'll never get started with learning.

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That was one week ago, and you're still asking if you should learn C or C++. At this rate, it doesn't matter as you'll never learn how to program, although you'll have a nice library. If you don't start learning instead of collecting, you will end up like a person who claims that he/she wants to learn music and amasses a collection of world class instruments but remains forever unable to play even a simple tune on any of them. That is a music instrument collector, not a musician. Likewise, you'll be a programming book collector, not a programmer.

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Can someone please help me?

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I really hope that no one helps you.

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So i have collected all the books one needs in order to learn c++, all of them, no exception.

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I must admit though, that is a mightily impressive claim.

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I actually have to ask: you do know that you can't actually learn C++ just by sleeping on large pile of books? Right? Or a USB stick with PDF files?
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Actually, it may be worth a try.

I'm going to start sleeping with a USB stick full of all of my "How to Draw" books.
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Soma

Ok, I will learn c n come back after that ( within a year or so, lol).

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Originally Posted by laserlight

Oh, now I remember. You're the person to whom I gave this piece of advice:

That was one week ago, and you're still asking if you should learn C or C++. At this rate, it doesn't matter as you'll never learn how to program, although you'll have a nice library. If you don't start learning instead of collecting, you will end up like a person who claims that he/she wants to learn music and amasses a collection of world class instruments but remains forever unable to play even a simple tune on any of them. That is a music instrument collector, not a musician. Likewise, you'll be a programming book collector, not a programmer.

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thx 4 the advice,but I just wanna have all the books I need so i don't need to look 4 them in the future.

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Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai

thx 4 the advice,but I just wanna have all the books I need so i don't need to look 4 them in the future.

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Just 1 simple question. The book the c programming language is not for beginners. Do u think i might start learning from this book after i read the tutorial on this site? Please ppl, stop playing around and please take me serious.

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Originally Posted by phantomotap

I really hope that no one helps you.



I must admit though, that is a mightily impressive claim.

[Edit]
I actually have to ask: you do know that you can't actually learn C++ just by sleeping on large pile of books? Right? Or a USB stick with PDF files?
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Actually, it may be worth a try.

I'm going to start sleeping with a USB stick full of all of my "How to Draw" books.
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Soma

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With all the respect, please be more serious and stop trying to be a clown.

http://cboard.cprogramming.com/c-pro...endations.html

Is a good start.

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Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai

thx 4 the advice,but I just wanna have all the books I need so i don't need to look 4 them in the future.

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For starters, the notion that you can "completely learn C" is bogus. Yes, you can completely learn about the syntax and semantics of the core language, and completely learn about what is in the standard library. For this, I venture to say that the only books that you need is a good introductory book (unfortunately I cannot recommend any myself, but you can check the book recommendation thread and book reviews forum), the C Programming Language (2nd edition), and a copy of the C standard.

However, programming in C is so much more than just that. There are things like data structure and algorithms. Things like language idioms and program design. You would eventually want to learn not just what is in the standard library, but how to use them effectively in various situations (or the use of higher level libraries, where applicable), and maybe how to implement them (in which case you may want to learn lower level APIs). Oh, and lots more.

Getting all the books for the entire range of what might constitute "C programming" is infeasible. Furthermore, there are many topics that probably won't interest you, right now, or even not ever. Plus, books could become outdated. As such, just get started. You're at the stage where you don't know what you don't know. So, start getting to know something, and then what you don't know will become evident to you as you go along.

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Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai

The book the c programming language is not for beginners. Do u think i might start learning from this book after i read the tutorial on this site?

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Yes.

You don't need books for learning C, you just need patience, passion, persistence, and the internet. ;)

Kuro IMHO, the only book you need for now is KnR book The C Programming Language You can learn a lot from it. Just pick this one and believe (despite of hardness) in it.

thx 4 the answers guys, but i'm a bit stubborn n will try to collect the books n hopefully i will back soon. I just got a little question before i go: Is c primer plus a good book for beginners with no experience @ all?

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Is c primer plus a good book for beginners with no experience @ all?

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Okay.

This has officially passed from sad into fun.

Soma

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Originally Posted by phantomotap

Okay.

This has officially passed from sad into fun.

Soma

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???????????? what do u mean?

O_o

You've been at this stupid downloadathon for nearly three weeks.

If you'd shut the [Expletive Deleted] up and dive in you'd have three weeks experience programming.

You know, instead of three weeks harvesting "teh warez".

Soma

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O_o

You've been at this stupid downloadathon for nearly three weeks.

If you'd shut the [Expletive Deleted] up and dive in you'd have three weeks experience programming.

You know, instead of three weeks harvesting "teh warez".

Soma

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i get you. I will b back soon. But please, just answer my question please, is c primer plus good for beginners with no experience at all?

It seems to me that "all the books on C++" would run to many 1000's of dollars worth of purchases. Good business for Amazon and publishers to be sure, but it would take you several years just to read them and still be none the wiser at the actual practice of writing programs.

Personally, you should be able to get away with a couple of online tutorials (like the one on this site), and C Programming Notes
After that, K&R-II makes an excellent desk reference to dip into to clarify points of understanding.
Downloading the draft ISO standards are also a good reference as well (since they're free).

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Originally Posted by Salem

It seems to me that "all the books on C++" would run to many 1000's of dollars worth of purchases. Good business for Amazon and publishers to be sure, but it would take you several years just to read them and still be none the wiser at the actual practice of writing programs.

Personally, you should be able to get away with a couple of online tutorials (like the one on this site), and C Programming Notes
After that, K&R-II makes an excellent desk reference to dip into to clarify points of understanding.
Downloading the draft ISO standards are also a good reference as well (since they're free).

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Ok, thx, but my question still isn't answered. Is c primer plus good for a beginner with no experience @ all?

What is your end goal? Is your goal to actually learn how to program in C? That is the goal of most people on this site.

If your goal instead is to collect as many books as possible without learning C, you're doing a fine job, and don't let us stand in your way.

Just buy C How to Program and learn it. The others throw it. :p

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Originally Posted by Kuro Tensai

Ok, thx, but my question still isn't answered. Is c primer plus good for a beginner with no experience @ all?

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I took a look at the first pages of the book on Amazon and read the preface. That is typically where you can find the answer to this type of question by the way, in the preface of your textbook. It can be helpful in choosing a textbook. I actually commend you for not grabbing the first book off the shelf and making sure that your learning material was written for people like you but it seems you've become annoying, requesting our help for answers you should seek on your own. Every learner is different.

Anyway, after reading the preface myself, if I was going to start learning C programming from scratch, I would use C Primer Plus. "[T]his book does not assume you are a professional programmer", and the approach to the book (basically its structure) is solid. See for yourself here: C Primer Plus (5th Edition): Stephen Prata: 0752063326961: Amazon.com: Books

Our recommendations have always been solid.

Get to actual work.

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Originally Posted by whiteflags

I took a look at the first pages of the book on Amazon and read the preface. That is typically where you can find the answer to this type of question by the way, in the preface of your textbook. It can be helpful in choosing a textbook. I actually commend you for not grabbing the first book off the shelf and making sure that your learning material was written for people like you but it seems you've become annoying, requesting our help for answers you should seek on your own. Every learner is different.

Anyway, after reading the preface myself, if I was going to start learning C programming from scratch, I would use C Primer Plus. "[T]his book does not assume you are a professional programmer", and the approach to the book (basically its structure) is solid. See for yourself here: C Primer Plus (5th Edition): Stephen Prata: 0752063326961: Amazon.com: Books

Our recommendations have always been solid.

Get to actual work.

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so which book do i have to choose between c: how to program and c primer plus? Sry, i can't start learning yet because of the medicines i'm takin, u can say i'm just preparing myself.

> Sry, i can't start learning yet because of the medicines i'm takin, u can say i'm just preparing myself.
Just how long have you been on meds?
Same topic, this time last year

Short answer.
It won't make a blind bit of difference how many books you have, if you don't stop dithering and start reading one (or more of them), learning about things and actually start WRITING programs.

It also doesn't make a blind bit of difference which book you start with. You can't learn everything from one book anyway (actually, some things you learn don't come from any book at all - that's called experience). You're going to read quite a few books, so pick any one which looks beginner friendly.

If you don't like it for some reason, then stop using it and try another book.

We can't answer "best book" questions. We can suggest a few, but in the end, it's all down to your personal choice and whether you seem to get on with the writing style of a particular author.

I really like C Primer Plus by Stephen Prata. I too am new at programming and know it can be hard to find somewhere to start. I plan on taking some classes eventually because it is hard to light that fire under your butt and just start hacking away at something. But I think C Primer Plus can't be beat as a good place to start.

I too have bought 3 programming books but sadly don't think I'm interested in one of them any longer. I would recommend buying just one or two books at a time, as they do take a while to work through and your interests may change to another language. Good luck though I wish you well and hopefully one day we will both be great programmers.

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Originally Posted by Salem

> Sry, i can't start learning yet because of the medicines i'm takin, u can say i'm just preparing myself.
Just how long have you been on meds?
Same topic, this time last year

Short answer.
It won't make a blind bit of difference how many books you have, if you don't stop dithering and start reading one (or more of them), learning about things and actually start WRITING programs.

It also doesn't make a blind bit of difference which book you start with. You can't learn everything from one book anyway (actually, some things you learn don't come from any book at all - that's called experience). You're going to read quite a few books, so pick any one which looks beginner friendly.

If you don't like it for some reason, then stop using it and try another book.

We can't answer "best book" questions. We can suggest a few, but in the end, it's all down to your personal choice and whether you seem to get on with the writing style of a particular author.

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I know dude, I started takin the ........in medication again, i had 2. I feel so ........ing frustrated.

O_o

Can we get a lock? Or a ban? Preferably both.

I don't know what "medication" this is supposed to be, but I can't help but feel if he is well enough to [expletive deleted] around on forums or harvest "teh warez" that he'd be well enough to start studying.

Soma