Demokrats or Republicans?

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12-20-2004
Da-Nuka

Demokrats or Republicans?

What are your opinion?
I am definately with the republicans! :D All the great presidents have been republicans! Lincoln, Nixon, Bush1, Bush2 and Reagan!

I am a liberal-conservative...What are you guys? :)
12-20-2004
adrianxw

>>> What are you guys?

Fed up with US centric flame bait threads, that's what.

First sign of trouble, it's history.
12-20-2004
sean

Here we go...

Go back a few pages in the General Discussion forum and I'm sure you'll find answers to your question.
12-20-2004
Govtcheez

> I am a liberal-conservative...What are you guys?

You what?

edit: I'm a democrat, not because I agree with their policies, but because I hate sean
12-20-2004
master5001

Such a black and white perspective on life...
12-20-2004
B0bDole

I'm a Democratic-Liberal-Socialist-Commy-Capitalist.
12-20-2004
ober

I'm unaffiliated. I tend to hate them both, so I just pick whoever is the lesser of 2 evils at election time. And I definately disagree with the statement that the best presidents include "bush2". Wake up and smell the coffee. They take more rights away from us everyday and try to shove as much religion down our throats as they can.

:: smashes can of worms with nuclear weaponry ::
12-20-2004
sean

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but because I hate sean

Did you once offer to hug me on AIM?
12-20-2004
Govtcheez

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Originally Posted by sean_mackrory

Did you once offer to hug me on AIM?

And I believe you didn't hug me back, hence my feelings.
12-20-2004
exluddite

Musst.......resist...urge to..flame....neocon....aaargh!
12-20-2004
Darkness

I love politics.

;) :D :o :) :cool: :p
12-20-2004
sean

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And I believe you didn't hug me back, hence my feelings.

I didn't mean that. That was just a fight.
12-20-2004
7smurfs

There is no "demokrat" party.
12-20-2004
Brain Cell

how about "neither"?
12-20-2004
Govtcheez

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Originally Posted by sean_mackrory

I didn't mean that. That was just a fight.

WORDS HURT
12-20-2004
sean

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WORDS HURT

I'm sorry. Maybe we should just be friends with other people.
12-20-2004
Kleid-0

I think everyone should be whatever the current president is. Since George Bush is a republican & the president of the United States, then I believe everyone should say they're republican just so we all have the utmost respect for our current leader, and I bet that would help out with foreign affairs.
12-21-2004
7smurfs

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Originally Posted by Kleid-0

I think everyone should be whatever the current president is. Since George Bush is a republican & the president of the United States, then I believe everyone should say they're republican just so we all have the utmost respect for our current leader, and I bet that would help out with foreign affairs.

To (somewhat) quote Bill Cosby: That has got to be the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard!

If everyone did that than we would ALWAYS have the same party as president. That is the last thing we want. If anything everyone should be the party the president ISN'T. Checks and balances man, check and balances. The last thing we want is to follow whatever the president wants. Imagine if nobody said anything about the patriot act? Or the War? Things could be much worse right now if nobody dissagreed with the president. The perfect government would have the president be of party X, and then most of the senate/congress being of party Y.
12-21-2004
Govtcheez

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Originally Posted by Kleid-0

I think everyone should be whatever the current president is. Since George Bush is a republican & the president of the United States, then I believe everyone should say they're republican just so we all have the utmost respect for our current leader, and I bet that would help out with foreign affairs.

hehehe

You are just so damn cute!
12-21-2004
nvoigt

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What are you guys?

I'm wondering how a nation can only have two parties and one hopeless independent clown. Is there only black and white ?
12-21-2004
Govtcheez

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Originally Posted by nvoigt

I'm wondering how a nation can only have two parties and one hopeless independent clown. Is there only black and white ?

We have WAY more than one hopeless independent clown. There are thousands and thousands of hopeless independent clowns.
12-21-2004
Kleid-0

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Originally Posted by 7smurfs

If everyone did that than we would ALWAYS have the same party as president. That is the last thing we want. If anything everyone should be the party the president ISN'T. Checks and balances man, check and balances. The last thing we want is to follow whatever the president wants. Imagine if nobody said anything about the patriot act? Or the War? Things could be much worse right now if nobody dissagreed with the president. The perfect government would have the president be of party X, and then most of the senate/congress being of party Y.

quote Jason Zebehazy: "Genius - the ability to produce fantastic amounts of equally fantastic bull**** that all makes perfect sense"

This IS bull****, and is makes PERFECT sense! You see, checks and balances is ok, but when people whine about what the president is doing all of the time, it makes our country look bad because there are always that group of people that exploit & super expand his flaws. That brings up negativity, and that makes it really hard for people to have any patriotism for a country ruled by what people would call a corrupt person, and I think that's wrong. It's not like he killed thousands of jews or anything!

Nobody looks on the bright side of what the president is doing, damn pessimism to hell!!
12-21-2004
Brian

So freedom of speech should be abolished because it makes the country look bad?

Right.
12-21-2004
7smurfs

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Originally Posted by Kleid-0

quote Jason Zebehazy: "Genius - the ability to produce fantastic amounts of equally fantastic bull**** that all makes perfect sense"

This IS bull****, and is makes PERFECT sense! You see, checks and balances is ok, but when people whine about what the president is doing all of the time, it makes our country look bad because there are always that group of people that exploit & super expand his flaws. That brings up negativity, and that makes it really hard for people to have any patriotism for a country ruled by what people would call a corrupt person, and I think that's wrong. It's not like he killed thousands of jews or anything!

Nobody looks on the bright side of what the president is doing, damn pessimism to hell!!

When people critique the president then he, if he wishes to hold office and/or get relelcted, must act in the opinion of the people. If we all agreed to everything Bush wanted we would all be wearing GOD BLESS BUSH shirts and carrying AK-47s to Iraq to fight for "liberty". Blindlessly following a leader would make our country look bad, not following our president when that is the wisest thing to do will make us look GOOD.
12-21-2004
Kleid-0

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Originally Posted by Brian

So freedom of speech should be abolished because it makes the country look bad?

Right.

No not abolishing freedom of speech, I'm talking about brainwashing the American people into being optimistic about what the president is doing. I think subliminal messages would get this job done! Maybe some more advertising too.
12-21-2004
nvoigt

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It's not like he killed thousands of jews or anything!

So where do you draw the line ? When is it okay to criticize him ? 999 Jews ? 750 ? 500 ? 1000 Americans ? 100 ? 10 ? 2 ? How about one ? A half ?

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Oh and Govt, I'm sorry, we Europeans most of the time only notice the head clown :P You know, Darwin, survival of the clown most present in the media and stuff :)
12-21-2004
Kleid-0

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Originally Posted by nvoigt

So where do you draw the line ? When is it okay to criticize him ? 999 Jews ? 750 ? 500 ? 1000 Americans ? 100 ? 10 ? 2 ? How about one ? A half ?

There is no line to draw. For one it's illegal for him to explicitely order to kill people, it was our choice to give him the power to go to Iraq if it was the last resort. Well, it was the last resort, and he executed his power wisely as the US is the big brother of the world. Of couse I could say: "That it wasn't the last resort blah blah blah", but that would be pessimistic about the past, and thus wouldn't do anyone any good.
12-21-2004
Darkness

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it was the last resort

In a thread that has 'demokrat' in its title, I'm really not surprised to see somebody saying something like that.

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but that would be pessimistic about the past, and thus wouldn't do anyone any good.

How about trying not to let it happen again?
12-21-2004
Govtcheez

I'm less happy than I would be if I had found out Kleid was Dean, but I'm still liking what's going on here.
12-21-2004
Clyde

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but when people whine about what the president is doing all of the time, it makes our country look bad

You're somewhat confused, your country looks better not worse for the criticism, because the rest of the world (by in large) agrees with the critics.

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No not abolishing freedom of speech, I'm talking about brainwashing the American people into being optimistic about what the president is doing

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he executed his power wisely as the US is the big brother of the world

Ah... you're taking the mick.
12-21-2004
-KEN-

The sad thing is that I still wouldn't be surprised if Kleid wasn't joking. I've heard dumber.
12-21-2004
kermi3

Either Kleid or joking or he isn't, but this thread is rapidly becoming one man against the world.

To me that means that no usefull dscussion will come from a thread that started serious, or it will just turn into a troll bait flame war.

Either way I can't see any reason to keep it open. If you have something you really want to say, PM me and I'll let you post it. Otherwise, this thread is closed.