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So, I had an idea which some might think stupid, but I think it's decent ;)
The thing is, why don't we have a Code Snippets forum? Maybe sub-forums under C++ and C forums and C# is that's needed... These forums would only be there to post finished snippets of yours, simple or advanced, doesn't matter, also this way you can search the Code Snippets forum for some snippet you'd like and maybe it exists, like algorithms and stuff...
Do you think this is a good idea, or just rubbish?
sure, the atmosphere of the current c/c++ boards is "ZOMG it's not working, fix it for me", I guess it'd be nice to have an atmosphere of "time to ZOMG optimize" (If that's what you're thinking)
except with talkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Sinkula
As long as we can classify the snippets by school, course, and assignment number :p
>> sure, the atmosphere of the current c/c++ boards is "ZOMG it's not working, fix it for me", I guess it'd be nice to have an atmosphere of "time to ZOMG optimize" (If that's what you're thinking)
Heh, true.
>> As long as we can classify the snippets by school, course, and assignment number
Right? :p
Cprogramming.com - C/C++ Programming Code Snippets isn't on cboard, I barely use cprogramming.com :S Also, you can't post replies on Cprogramming.com - C/C++ Programming Code Snippets, like the idea is not for code snippet questions, that's what the current forum is for, but still people should be able to ask what it does, if more description should be added, if there's a better way to do it, bla bla bla, well that was my idea anyways..
Also, if it's on cboard, it gets WAY much more attention as I guess more people surf cboard than cprogramming :S
Also, my idea was to upload header files, as in Code Snippets should ALWAYS be header files, makes them easy to implement, but if they are too long, then some .c/.cpp files could also be used, but to make it easy for other people, just using one header would be best ;)
Damn me if the C++ and C boards aren't exactly meant for that.
Note: I don't vote on polls. Unless my name is somewhere in there.
I lol'dQuote:
Originally Posted by Mario F.
ugh!
Unless we're talking templates, then I can summarize all the code snippets we'll get right here that work as headers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Akkernight
Code:
well, I meant uploaded files, but I guess this idea wasn't so good xP
Don't hide the poll voters, I like to judge people :)
I've seen this done on another board. The quality average is low, and it would tie up a lot of resources to point out all the mistakes.
Hmmm...but isn't that the point of the board? People helping other people with programming? Most of it already is people posting code and asking someone to help fix the mistakes or improve something, etc, often the same exact things over and over again. My idea would be to post working examples of things that people commonly try, sort of like a very short winded tutorial that is just code with comments -- since there are already lots of tutorials around, but the norm there is usually *not* to provide much in the way of demo code.Quote:
Originally Posted by CornedBee
The same is true of actual documentation such as man pages, where it is basically standard to write several pages of explanation without a single example of the actual syntax; when learning a new API I usually have to deduce the syntax from the "explanation" and perform a few little tests before I get it right. I'm more comfortable with that now, but it seemed very counter-productive to me when first starting out, and I doubt the intention is anything so high minded as to force beginner's to make deductions, etc, which even if it is I'm not sure if I consider that so clever anyway.
My point is you are right CornedBee, the web is short on quality snippets, but probably the gang at cboard are just the gang to provide it. Nobody is asking you to do work you don't want to do, of course.
dunno how to change it, also that's a bad attitude o.oQuote:
Originally Posted by zacs7
Yes, but that's about specific needs. Someone comes here with a concrete problem, and others help solve it.Quote:
Hmmm...but isn't that the point of the board? People helping other people with programming?
Snippets are about solutions that may or may not have specific needs. Because there is no immediate need, the motivation to actually go there and look them over is considerably lower. (At least mine. I can't speak for others, of course.)
Also, the people who are most typically motivated to post snippets are beginners who just discovered something new and feel like they should share it - however, these are usually low-quality. A prime example of what comes from snippet boards is the xor swap.
Uh oh :pQuote:
Originally Posted by CornedBee
In all seriousness it still does seem like not a bad idea IMO. Of course the most urgent problems are the normal ones on the normal board, but I don't think it would be bad for people, beginner or otherwise, to do exactly what CornedBee is talking about and have other people, when they are in the mood, come along and say, "Well, your code could be improved in these ways" or even "You are delusional, give up". As long as the snippets forum has a caveat: There is no formal review policy, use at your own risk.
The cprogramming snippets section referred to earlier in the thread does not appear to have a review policy either, just a vote n' rate thing, which means there are no specific comments vis. what is good or bad about a particular snippet, since no one can post a response.
When new boards are made, they should come at a benefit to everyone. I don't think this site is going to generate the code snippets that the old timers would actually use (but I'm speaking for myself), and to announce something like "Everyone who knows what they're doing doesn't read this board" is a lot like saying "spam this board with broken examples from books". It lowers the quality of the board. Newbies will now be using poorly written code in their homework.
Not to mention this might only enable people who don't want to learn and already spam our board. There are a couple I could name.
And nothing we do with the new board will be like what daniweb already does or has here.
To be fair, there are other places to upload code snippets. If we want high-quality snippets, then we might post here first and make it robust before uploading elsewhere.
Otherwise you might that idea and make a snippet board. Posts are made in the C/C++ forums with the snippets, and are fixed up, then submitted to the snippets board, usually by a moderator. It makes for an archive for anyone who wants to share some snippets of code.
Of course, that opens up another can of worms. Should there be some quality control? How is the quality check done?
I'm standing neutral on this one.
How do neutral votes count if this is going to decide anything, anyway?
*shrug*
I'm neither for nor against either option, I'm just putting in some more info, so to speak.
Someone else will have to decide. I will simply abide with the decision.
I think it's a good idea. Most people post on the C/C++ boards if they have a problem and not just to share code and hear some responces.
I would be for a section of cprogramming.com that was more dedicated to snippets than it already has; were users could submit code, and have the mods verify it first of course.
But it's a bad idea to make another board for it. I agree that you'd get alot of garbage in there, and any real discussions would be minimal.
Sure, this is a very good ideia, a place in the forum that you can post your code snnippets, for all commment and make it better. This is the better thing to do.