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I need developers to help me with a game. For me information please goto
http://vistra.dview.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10#10
Dream on...Quote:
I need some developers to make a game which is Unreal Tournament mixed with Descent mixed with Continuum.
Why do you think game companies have million dollar budgets?
check your Email, vistra. I sent something there.
Magos, my company does not have million dollar budgets.
We are making Operating systems, compilers, games, music, music players, and more games!
And we dont even have 1 dollar. We dont have income, not until we release our MOS. Then we'll see how that works.
So come on, don't say "Dream on" to someone pursuing his/her dreams!
Then you're not a company. You're a non-profit organization.Quote:
Originally posted by Blizzarddog
And we dont even have 1 dollar. We dont have income,
True, true.... But we are building on it. Microsoft started by a non-profit organization building computers, until they released their big stuff, too. Once we finish MOS, we'll release it, and get income... hopefully. Its written in logo, but we might rebuild it in C++, or Visual Basic. We can succesfully run games and stuff in it, even C++, word docs, etc. Buts its buggy
Is MOS going to be an operating system? I didn't see anything about it on your site. If so, how are you writing it in logo? As I understand it logo is a very simple (ie: not powerful) language that was created to teach children basic programming concepts.
I'm not trying to knock your efforts. I'm fairly logo-ignorant. I just don't see how an OS could be written with it (if that's the case) because as I understand it it's not capable of all the low-level stuff that goes into creating an OS.
If it is an OS then I'd definitely recommend C and/or ASM, especially as opposed to VB.
Logo is quite complex. I'll post some code from basic logo that i wrote to make the turle move on command:
Now, MOS has code 100 % harder to understand. Being in super logo, its written in Dutch. But english translations is really hard to understand.Code:to steer :direction
; key 44 = "<" (or comma), key 46 = ">" (or full stop)
if :direction = 44 [lt 30 stop]
if :direction = 46 [rt 30 stop]
; key 97 = "a" for accelerator
if :direction = 97 [make "speed :speed + 1 stop]
if :direction = 97 [soundon 70]
; key 115 = "s" for slow
if :direction = 115 [make "speed :speed - 1 stop]
if :direction = 115 [soundon 30]
end
to drive :speed
; the next two instructions check for a keyboard press
; the steer procedure will process any key presses.
setfocus [MSWLogo Screen]
keyboardon [make "keypress keyboardvalue steer :keypress keyboardoff]
; if the "q" key is pressed, drive will stop
if :keypress = 113 [ finish stop]
; a short delay, so speed isn't too fast - alter this according to taste
wait 1
; :speed is the distance the turtle will move each time
fd :speed
; command will check for track edge, hazards etc.
command
; recursive call to drive - do it all again
drive :speed
end
Its got 900 lines just to read the mouse clicks. another 500 to open the windows. 1700 lines to start added EXEs, 5000 for debugging, and 170 lines for colors, pictures, icons, startup, etc.
Logo can write windows programs as well. coding for that would be something like:
Thats my version of logo. Other versions have different thing on it. like SE SPL logo, or EX LGO.Code:messagebox[Windows][Will start windows now]
windowsapp[windows][MAIN]
to message :size
print STARTING MESSAGE
print DRAW
HD DRAW
MATRIX 500 500 300
tree DIR
bitload "WINDOWSBACK.BMP"
bit overload "WINDOWSICON.BMP"
windowsmsgbox[Windows Message Box][Okay[Cancel]][Press Okay or cancel]
okay
cancel
messout
end
to makefile :ext
fileout "Windows.txt"
filein "Windows.txt"
Writefile "Windows.txt" [Windows programming in LOGO]
end
to messout
printscreen [320.300] windowsmsgbox
end
to okay
if [windowsmsgbox Okay]
windowsmsgbox close
end
to Cancel
if [windowsmsgbox Cancel]
windowsmsgbox close
end
C++ can be really weak, or it can be very powerful. Depending on how you use it.
Logo is the same way. Except its a wee bit easier to master.
That's cool. MOS is going to have a GUI? That's really cool. I was thinking it was going to be a command-line OS. Is MOS an OS? ie: stand-alone or is it a GUI that sits on top of Linux, Windows, etc.?
I have upgraded my forum so the link is now: http://vistra.dview.net/forum_plus/index.php
MOS currently sits on windows. It still has to be run in the Super Logo IDE, though.
You see, LOGO is 100 % windows graphics programming. I myself have made a few NES Zelda clones. Well, kinda. I can't get more then one turtle on the screen at once.
However, LOGO is supposed to be able to make EXEs. The main MOS programmer, (COM)Buster, is working on a VB program to compile SPL and SLG files into .EXE files. Plus working on a batch program to make a new extension, .ACL, to run in MOS, i think. Im not sure on that, but i hope so.
When i can do Win API in C++, i'll make a IDE to make .ACL files.
ACL stands for All Computer Langauges.
Something to kick the crap out of Micro$oft.
Want to add some random size squares in your DOS window? ACL!
::C++::
cout << "Random squares:\n";
::LOGO::
to square :ran
repeat 4 [fd :ran rt 90]
end
repeat 10 [cs square :ran]
::~LOGO::
::~C++::
Good! Now all i need is to combine all the compilers together, and BAM! An ACL program!
> ACL stands for All Computer Langauges.
This has to be, bar none, one of the worst ideas I've EVER heard. Good luck getting anyone at all to debug it.
hey, its like C++, you can do regular C in it as well. So i take that idea, and do it with other languages. Maybe ill just make a CCC language. C/C++/C# all in one.
Yeah, I was trying to be polite before but this really doesn't sound like a winner.Quote:
Originally posted by Govtcheez
> ACL stands for All Computer Langauges.
This has to be, bar none, one of the worst ideas I've EVER heard. Good luck getting anyone at all to debug it.
Also you said your company wrote OS's. That's not an OS. That's a useless GUI that sits on top of Windows and will have the ability to execute it's own file type. I'm not trying to be rude but that just sounds like a mountain of headaches with no reward or justifiable purpose.
> Maybe ill just make a CCC language.
You make my brain hurt and my bowels weak.