Good day,
I am a newbie c programmer in Cameroon and i am interested in building a social network and taking into account scalability problems in the long run , which compiled language do you i should master to achieve this goal and what scripting language do you think would go in hand with the compiled language to solve this problem. Thanks for the reply
Nyah Check
I think C#, ASP.NET, HTML, Typescript (Microsoft's type-safe Javascript) and SQL would be good candidates.
Type strict JavaScript is an idea I'm skeptical of: why would that language need such a drastic change when it is obviously designed around dynamic typing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elysia
I, for one, am pretty disgusted with how stupid Javascript is. You can do all sorts of nonsense which you will only catch at runtime.
If Typescript eliminates this problem even a little bit and compiles to Javascript, as well as allowing you to interop with Javascript code, then I say, why not? Javascript just isn't suited for today's big sites.
PHP/MySQL/HTML+CSS still work wonders and won't force you to spend a few thousand dollars on licenses.
I wouldn't know if it actually is better. My worst enemy is actually remembering all the properties of things, and DOM was a pretty ........ model before getElementById was made. I'd say most of my real errors were not exactly things type strictness fixed.
It might be easier to just assume you don't know how to use JavaScript. You can do stupid things in a type strict language too, so I don't understand that argument. Consider the safe bool idiom and how unnecessary it should be. There are things a knowledgeable person just wouldn't do. That goes for all languages.
There is nothing stopping one from using Visual Studio Express for Web apps, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario F.
I think I'll just point out that C#/ASP.NET is type safe and it is much to do the memory management in C#, as compared to PHP.
But of course, I forgot CSS. Necessary for any web programmer.
I made a Quiz some time back completely in HTML+CSS+Javascript. To put it simply, it was a huge pain in the ass because Javascript isn't typesafe.Quote:
Originally Posted by whiteflags
Nor does it really support classes or any other objects. You have to do so indirectly, and it's pretty annoying and still doesn't work very well.
So you want to essentially create an array of certain objects? I mean, why wouldn't you? It's basics of basics in Object oriented languages.
Yeah, turns out there is no feature to check that you actually "filled out" all properties of an object. Oh, and you know when you misspell something? Javascript just creates a new member. And if you forgot something? Javascript doesn't complain again.
Doing accessor functions was also a pain.
Anyway, it turned out I had to manually create a bunch of long code to check that I didn't do any mistakes in the code creating these objects which were meant to be the source of questions for the quiz! Thank you, Javascript!
So anyway, Typescript is supposed to be a solution for this. It supports classes natively, it's type safe and strict, and it compiles to Javascript.
And with type strictness also comes Intellisense support.
I dunno. If you want, we can talk about the quiz you made in PMs. Chances are you made some poor design decisions because you basically use strict type languages all the time. That doesn't mean every languages need to be type strict.
Yes, plenty. When their requirements are to build a scalable solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elysia
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To put it simply, it was a huge pain in the ass because Javascript isn't typesafe.
If you are doing web development and that is the thing you complain about, you haven't done enough web development.
The things wrong with HTML+CSS+Javascript could fill an entire series of books.
Soma
hey guys i was thinking of mastering c++ and a scripting language like python to build social network which may be as big as facebook so i don't know if i am making the right choice....or should i go for java and php or what???
I guess MMORPGs are out of fashion lately !Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyah Check
Can't say I have done large scale we development, no. But this probably just goes to show that if things are this bad on this small scale, then I cannot imagine how horrible it will be at bigger levels...Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomotap
C++ and Python are not web technologies. Sure, could can make a server and a client with C++/Python, but most people these days expect it to be web based so it can be accessed everywhere, anytime. Also, if you use C++/Python, then you are going to have a hard time getting your social network to work on mobile devices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyah Check
Best bet is to use server side technologies to make the server and the web browser for the client side (which means HTML/CSS/[Javascript/Typescript]).
C++ and Python are web technologies in the sense that you can use them for server-side code.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elysia
I suppose you could, but it will be far easier with technologies dedicated to that purpose.
Don't use a hammer to screw a screw.