I have now tried to submit a post 3 times into a forum (not this one) and everytime it gave me the "you are not logged in error" message. Of course after I re-login my original post is gone and I am suppose to type it again. WHAT IS HAPPENING!?!
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I have now tried to submit a post 3 times into a forum (not this one) and everytime it gave me the "you are not logged in error" message. Of course after I re-login my original post is gone and I am suppose to type it again. WHAT IS HAPPENING!?!
It's a new feature?
Have a 'cookie' , maybe?
The site tends to do this to me as well. I do not have cookies enabled for the site but it can and does log me out if I stay on a page too long. I have been logged out while typing replies to posts, etc. If you set your browser to allow cookies from this site it will not happen. I do find it odd that it logs me out even though I have not navigated away from the site.
Not odd at all. It would be the server that terminates the session after a timeout period based on inactivity. If you have cookies enabled (and relevant cookies haven't expired) your browser would send enough validated information so the server can establish a new session if needed (bearing in mind that cookies originate on the server, so the server will have information so it can recognise your cookies when the browser sends them back). Without cookies, it would be necessary to challenge you for credentials again.Quote:
Originally Posted by VirtualAce
>> Without cookies, it would be necessary to challenge you for credentials again.
AFAIK without cookies you would need to send your session ID as part of the URL of every request you send. If the server redirects you to a page that does not contain your session ID as a URL parameter or you click on links that don't contain your session ID in the URL then it will effectively log you out.
Possibly. That does depend on how the server, and software running on the server, is configured. Sending a session ID can also fail if the server has dropped that session (eg due to timeouts).Quote:
Originally Posted by whompkin
I can't speak for the problem in the original post. I guess maybe he just types slow.Quote:
I do not have cookies enabled for the site but it can and does log me out if I stay on a page too long.
*shrug*
Anyway, you'll see that with or without cookies after a time if you don't have "Remember Me" enabled. (You may see it even with "Remember Me" if you move between computers.) It is a feature. (Really!)
It is "Automatic Session Timeout" or whatever "vBulletin" chooses to call it.
The idea is to prevent careless users from leaving an unattended PC open to exploit from when they were accessing the site.
Soma
Ah yes. The "Default to Stupid" of modern applications feature set.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomotap
Counterintuitive application behavior is becoming easier to understand though. One just needs to pretend they are stupid and it will all work out.
O_o
A million years ago--or about a decade--this was a support ticket for a plugin for which I was responsible:
Ticket: "I can't load PNG files.".
Response: "Have you verified that you have the correct file?"
Ticket: "Yes."
Response: "The plugin doesn't handle some PNG files because of optional or proprietary chunks. Where did you get the PNG file?"
Ticket: "I took a picture with my camera and converted the JPEG with the command line tool."
Response: "Strange. The CLI tools I'm aware of usually produce a very clean and consistent PNG files. Send me a link to the tool and the command you used. You may have used unusual options, but it may very well be a bug on one side or the other."
Ticket: "It comes with Windows. The command I used was: rename file.jpeg file.png".
Users are generally stupid.
It isn't really a bad assumption.
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For those who are wondering:
Response: Windows doesn't come with that tool. You must have a virus.
Manage: We will not be requiring your services anymore.
Response: Yay!
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Yes. This really is true. Oh, sure, I exaggerated on the "Yay!" bit and changed the words, but I was exposed to a customer who thought changing the extension was the same as changing a file's format. I'm not the only one. This sort of thing is fairly common. People have gotten more tech savvy, but idiots still out number us all.
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Soma
Timout is a notorious low value. I make sure I don't lose my response post by copying-and-pasting to NOTEPAD or Outlook email so that if I have to navigate elsewhere to a login screen I don't lose the text.
For example:
By the time I start Visual Studio, copy-and-paste a user's source code first into Microsoft Office Word, and then from there into Visual Studio (to strip crap and make it handle new-lines properly), compile it, check errors and correct things, then diagnose the real problem and make ready for a solution, compose my response, check for spelling errors, the forum has timed out.
For a while the board was doing this to me quite frequently. I often copy a post to the clipboard before hitting "post"... if I have klipper running it will remember my clipboard even if I overwrite it with something else by accident. It's a useful insurance, especially for long posts (where the board has a good chance of logging me out). It's worth noting that you should never, ever refresh the page (you'll lose it for sure). Copy-paste the text, or log in in a different tab.
This is all in the context of not checking the "Remember me" box, which I don't like to do for some reason... I guess that might make life easier....