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    The Unified Modelling Language (UML) is an accepted visual language, it is different than .NET however in a theoretical way you can probably compare them, but I'll leave that to your imagination.

    This is the link to learn about .NET. It is a short description that will suffice as an introduction. Read parts I and II

    http://www.softsteel.co.uk/tutorials...tNetIndex.html


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    Thanks for the link. The article does a good job of outlining .NET, but until I see it actually being used and being successful I won't believe that it is the be all and end all of development platforms.

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    it just remains to be seen, but until then can you please stop shouting about how fantastic it is, i dont recall anything by microsoft ever being this great. I think this is just anothe oppurtunity for M$ to redefine all the standards and force poeple into paying millions into thier bank accounts to keep up. Remember not everyone is going to rush and out and buy it.
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    Back to the original point

    I agree with iain. Why can't we have both? I would be interested in reading some posts on C# as i do on other sites, but I really like the idea of having a Linux forum. Is there a resource issue here? If that's the case why do we still have DOS board? If you're asking me that's the board that should be eliminated to make room for C#.
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    Well, i won't be using XP, it spying gone mad, and have you seen the GUI of windows XP, total rip off of Gnome or KDE, I prefer to program in linux, I hate having to mess around with files just to get things to work (i.e Visual C++ 6.0) with linux it has all the library file you need somewere.

    Any way i use Win98 for programming in ASP and RedHat 7 for my C programming.

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    I agree with iain. Why can't we have both? I would be interested in reading some posts on C# as i do on other sites, but I really like the idea of having a Linux forum. Is there a resource issue here? If that's the case why do we still have DOS board? If you're asking me that's the board that should be eliminated to make room for C#.
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    .NET will crash and burn

    OSes dont make enough money to feed the microsoft empire, so they have created tons of different things, most of which have been moderate to extreme failures, and some have been moderate success. here is a list


    1. Microsoft games (other than flight simulator which has been around for a while)
    2. Microsoft Inet access(marketing lost money on this one)
    3. Microsoft J++ (C# beta 1 hehehe, cost them a few million for that blunder)
    4. Microsoft Windows < 95 (2.0,3.1,3.11! omg I had used it when I was 8 and booted to dos to play wolfenstein, then wished I knew what Unix was!)
    5. Microsoft Xbox (amount and quality of developers is overrated, most developers will release better PC versions shortly after XBox versions)
    6. any of a thousand things that were cancelled before full production/marketing

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    >Microsoft Windows < 95 (2.0,3.1,3.11! omg I had used it when I was 8 and booted to dos to play wolfenstein, then wished I knew what Unix was!)

    You forgot Windows 1

    >Microsoft Xbox (amount and quality of developers is overrated, most developers will release better PC versions shortly after XBox versions) <

    Prove it.

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    The most well known Microsoft XBox coder I know is Micheal Abrash.

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    Prove it?
    Halo will be on PC a few months after(with better multiplayer)
    Unreal Championship will also(better multiplayer again, your computer already has high speed backbone, Xbox may at release BUT, I doubt it will have the selection (dsl,cable,isdn,T1,etc))

    Rest of developers are no names that are making the transition, in hopes of a better future.


    Xbox IS a pc, it uses a windows kernel + direct x. Converting games would be ridiculously easy. Its like saying hey, now you can buy a relativly fast PC with a NV20 for 300 dollars and windows is FREE! Of course you cant run any apps on it, or do anything else but thats why you save money.

    Xbox is already outdated which is BAD, atleast the PS2 could push enough pixels at release to beat a PC. Dont believe me? Geforce 3 is faster than the NV20, and the new radeon chip is already 30 % faster than that!


    Name one benefit of developing for xbox and not releasing a PC version...

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    >Xbox IS a pc, it uses a windows kernel + direct x.
    I belive it can also use opengl.

    >Halo will be on PC a few months after(with better multiplayer)
    Unreal Championship will also(better multiplayer again, your computer already has high speed backbone, Xbox may at release BUT, I doubt it will have the selection (dsl,cable,isdn,T1,etc)) <
    Xbox will have a broadband adapteter, also.
    PC games always have better mutliplayer since mulit-player is new on console systems and

    >Xbox is already outdated which is BAD, atleast the PS2 could push enough pixels at release to beat a PC. Dont believe me? Geforce 3 is faster than the NV20, and the new radeon chip is already 30 % faster than that! <
    Xbox has not been released yet, they can make it more powerfull.

    >Name one benefit of developing for xbox and not releasing a PC version...<
    None, anything I create I want avaiable on every available platform, with improvmets making the game nessary on all the platforms.
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    parts of the Xbox are already in production, and they actually downgraded the Xbox once. 700- 600 mhz, nv20 300 mhz - 250mhz.

    It almost sounds like you are on my side...

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    >parts of the Xbox are already in production, and they actually downgraded the Xbox once. 700- 600 mhz, nv20 300 mhz - 250mhz. <

    Most lickly they down gradded it to save monney. Anyways I dout microsoft cares if the games are ported to commputers.
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    If they didnt care they would not be microsoft. You see microsoft looses money on the Xbox but makes money off of charging 3-8 dollars per each game a publisher sells. If the game is ported why buy the Xbox if you already own a faster computer?

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    Back to the subject again...I also would like to see both a C# and a Linux board

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