No, it's because I'm a realist. Microsoft has what I want. Linux doesn't. Hence, I use Windows.
No, it's because I'm a realist. Microsoft has what I want. Linux doesn't. Hence, I use Windows.
Originally Posted by Adak
You really are a Windows user, aren't you.
Adding Yarin to ignore list. Shame you can't actually completely hide messages from people on one's ignore list.
I feel like this thread is now creating rifts where rifts ought not be created...
Can't we just all be friends? Let's use something to unify us like how great C++ is!
This isn't the first time I've been "added" to someone's ignore list.
Does this mean I can access your privates now? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Code:class Yarin { friend class MutantJohn; };
With today's virtualization technology there is not really a "versus" anymore. Just run whatever operating system(s) you want or need to get your work done as virtual machines. You can have your Windows and eat Linux too.
I lol'd.This isn't the first time I've been "added" to someone's ignore list.
Does this mean I can access your privates now? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Code:class Yarin { friend class MutantJohn; };
I just realised I got the declaration wrong, it should be the other way around
We're very serious here about our joke code. Don't let that happen again.
XD
You can not think about in a logical manor and make a choice, you need to instead find the energy to move forward. Having things that you can learn is good, there is the shell, lots of CLI tools and even the OS internals. Linux is the answer for that.
If you graduate from University you can make money as a programmer, however it might not be easy to find a job in your area.
O_oYou can not think about in a logical manor and make a choice, you need to instead find the energy to move forward. Having things that you can learn is good, there is the shell, lots of CLI tools and even the OS internals. Linux is the answer for that.
o_OIf you graduate from University you can make money as a programmer, however it might not be easy to find a job in your area.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am enjoying the... whatever that is... way more than "Cleverbot" stuff.
Soma
“Salem Was Wrong!” -- Pedant Necromancer
“Four isn't random!” -- Gibbering Mouther
Maybe the Universe is our chat room, and we're all Cleverbots :O
As much as I love Linux, I'm with Elysia on this one. If an operating system is to have mainstream acceptance, it needs to be useful and productive "out of the box," so users don't have to spend hours researching how to do basic tasks. Windows provides that. Linux doesn't always.
What can this strange device be?
When I touch it, it gives forth a sound
It's got wires that vibrate and give music
What can this thing be that I found?
The only people who are productive with Windows "out of the box" are people who already have years and years of experience using it. When people complain about not being productive in popular Linux, they do so as people who don't have the same level of experience with it. It's nothing more than familiarity bias.
But, as someone who grew up on Windows (95, 98, 2000, XP, Vista, & 7), I can actually speak out of places other than my ass about the "other side". (Yes, you know who I'm talking about)
Like MutantJohn said, learning the basics of the *nix shell is pretty straightforward, it won't take long for you to become more productive using it in conjunction with your GUI, as opposed to the GUI being the only real option. Different tools for different jobs, you know.
Saying that Windows is more productive than Linux is like saying that it's more productive to use just a hammer to put in nails and screws, than to use a drill with the hammer. 'cause 'aint no one got time to learn how to use a drill, the hammer puts the screws in just fine. With the drill you have to have things like power, and a bit, it's just so complicated!
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I think one of the biggest problems with learning Linux is that no distro comes with a "Here's useful things to get you started" guide.
Yes, Linux works best with the command line. No, this isn't a bad thing.
It's most useful to the user to tell them about commands like : mv, mkdir, cp, rm and how these function like their GUI counterparts.
But there's a lot of other useful features not mentioned. For example, tab-to-autocomplete, up/down arrow keys to cycle through command history.
Another huge issue where a GUI would be useful is in configuring .bashrc files. Doing this by hand is a giant pain the butt and can be quite confusing.
I think Linux just suffers from poor documentation, tbh.
