Thread: Eclipse CDT & curses

I have never found Eclipse to be exceedingly C or C++ friendly...more like hostile at the worst possible time...

Originally Posted by Kennedy

Are you attempting to run this app through Eclipse? If so, attempt it from a "real" terminal window. It could be that eclipse does not set up the environment correctly such that curses doesn't know how to interact with the shell.

Yes this it.
Eclipse compiles everything and I can run the binary from a terminal window.
In fact, I would like to run my program inside the IDE that flawlessly integrates gdb, too.

@jeffcobb
Well, if you run it with the help of the poweredbypulse.com small applet (these guys regularly contribute open source code to Eclipse) it works like a charm and it is easy adding, changing, updating and removing software, be it the core or a plugin.
Which IDE do you work with? I thought Eclipse is just simply the IDE, by definition, for almost every language we may imagine: it is cross platform and, (it doesn't hurt), IBM is one of its biggest supporters spending money on regular improvements. Probably I am too new to Linux development... Any suggestion for a friendly C IDE would be greatly appreciated!
I see you use cmake, but, really, just command line editing and bash scripts for every day development? No IDE autocompletion, checks, suggestions, projects? It's hard always having to type commands to commit changes to an SVN/CVS server, changing directories, copying and moving long file names with spaces in front of a terminal...
And I thought of me as a sort of vi/mc/edlin/nc guy (sort of almost extinct humanoid)...

Yeah, if you can use vim and mc well I don't see any hassles. Maybe that takes time. You can add whatever you want to the mc user menu to automate whatever tasks to act on files or directories by calling some program (you can program, remember?), and vim probably has more autocompletion (and similar) plugins than most (if not all) other editors or IDE's. Also it's programmable, which is where all those plugins come from, altho I have never bothered to learn the language*. Still not sure that I see much real value in integrating the debugger, I guess it's a question of useful you find that. Apparently there are some plans to do that with vim.

I always find it easier to work out my own way of staying organized, etc, and adapting familiar, ubiquitous, highly adaptable modular tools to that rather than learning how it's done with some monolithic app.

*another plan apparently in the works is to make it programmable with python. I think to some extent that is already possible, and with perl and ruby, but I've never explored the option.

While it is supposed to work with all languages (and it does to an extent) it is seriously slanted towards Java and Java-style projects and make systems.

CMake runs and works flawlessly on all of the platforms I need and many I don't. As for autocompletion and such I guess I know my target platform and language well enough that autocompletion gets in the way. I have to use SlickEdit at work and the auto complete drives me nuts because it always guesses the wrong thing it thinks I am typing. I do use a GUI for SVN on the odd times when I use SVN but I use straight cmd line CVS at work.

Because my default compiler is and has been gcc for years, Emacs works great because it hooks into not only gcc but gdb as well and works the same on every platform I need it on.

Aside from that with the specialized platforms I need (and have needed to support) the command line is the only way to support them...

All that aside I would still give Eclipse another shot if C/C++ were ever to become less of a second-class citizen..

Originally Posted by jeffcobb

As for autocompletion and such I guess I know my target platform and language well enough that autocompletion gets in the way.

Yeah, I prefer the less obtrusive variants. Also I don't use ctags, since that just clutters up the possibilities. Without ctags, you just get choices from within file scope, ie, mostly names of variables, and only when you use a hotkey, which is nice and simple. Saves having to type "totalNodes" over and over, etc.

I have used omnicppcomplete a little tho, the C++ "intellisense" style plug-in for vim. That one is intrusive (pops up and evaluates as you type, like google) and is configurable if you like that.

In addition to autocompletion, abbreviations are great, you define these in a file somewhere, or on the fly:

Code:

:iab $A $ARGS{
:iab <a <a href=" ">
:iab GRP Glib::RefPtr<
:iab #i #include <
:iab KV while (my ($k, $v) = each (%)) {
:iab PF print "$_\n" foreach (@
:iab PR fprintf(stderr,"
:iab $S $self->{''}
:iab UC unsigned char
:iab VI vector< >::iterator it = xxx.begin(), end =  xxx.end();
:iab WI while(it != end) {

Type a couple of characters then a space.

"Surround" is a good plugin for wrapping words or lines within tags or braces or quotes.

And snippets is pretty great, it has a lot of programmable potential, qv:
snipMate.vim Introductory Screencast on Vimeo
has some very clever aspects.

There's tons of stuff like this, they're easy to install, try out, and remove if you don't like it.

Originally Posted by sbaginov

@all:
Thank you guys for the feedbacks.
I think I do really have to rethink the way I was looking at the problem when timidly abandoning the pure C89 to just enter the real world.

FYI on the Linux front, a few of the IDEs that I have tried in the past, some in the very recent past are:
1. Anjuta (good for straight C/C++, hooks into help system for the language of choice and the debugger.
2. KDevelop. Same IDE can do Python, Perl, C++, C, and Ruby at least. Also contains or can contain GUI builders.
3. CodeLite: mimics a lot of VisualC++, with appropriate plugins can do alot.
4. Geany: Some folks like this, I have always had issues with the project mgmt.
5. CodeBlocks: works on multiple platforms, has pretty good GCC integration.
6 & 7: Emacs and Vim: is an editor first, both are mature cross-platform projects, can do the basics of coding (GDB integration, Makefile integration, etc).

This should get you going.

Another useful thing for emacs during long, interminable meetings:
Click Tools->Games->Adventure:

Code:

Dead end
You are at a dead end of a dirt road.  The road goes to the east.
In the distance you can see that it will eventually fork off.  The
trees here are very tall royal palms, and they are spaced equidistant
from each other.
There is a shovel here.
>

Originally Posted by jeffcobb

Another useful thing for emacs

Also programmable isn't it? (in ((lisp)) )

Why yes now that you mention it..

Cool! As of this afternoon I am bailing out of a CodeBlocks experiment in pain and going back to what I know, the stuff in my sign.