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    Could Windows suck any more than it does?

    In file explorer. Go to rename a folder, can't, says something has it open. Close every program, still won't let me.

    So I copy the folder, rename the copy, and delete the original folder. Works fine....

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    I have never ever had the file open crap in Linux or any related problem.

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    Oh, love getting the same error message for thumbs.db too.

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    This is hilarious because Linux is giving me nothing but problems right now lol.

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    Well thumbs.db is a system file so that doesn't really surprise me. It would be better to copy it and do whatever to the copy anyway.

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    Well, I will agree that Windows does suck, but for other reasons that you mention here. Anyway, go grab Lock Hunter to see what is locking a directory/file and a way to actually unlock it too. I still wonder to this date why Windows can't do this for you. Would be way better to have than Ink.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MutantJohn View Post
    This is hilarious because Linux is giving me nothing but problems right now lol.
    I think you're using the wrong distro. Haven't had a Linux gripe myself in probably 2 years. Rock solid on Lubuntu.

    What makes Linux better is that it's reliable in the sense that you get the same result every time, in my experience. Either something works or it doesn't, and it's going to do that every time. None of this random behavior that you see in Windows.

    Another favorite (on Windows) is trying to access a network share, sometimes it works right away, sometimes it takes minutes....

    We have a brand new Win 10 computer at work that decided the other day it was going to take 2 minutes for file explorer to come up from now on. No one touched it. Not surprised there though since the OS itself is basically spyware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteflags View Post
    Well thumbs.db is a system file so that doesn't really surprise me. It would be better to copy it and do whatever to the copy anyway.
    The problem there is that the idea of having this retard file everywhere that causes this error to occur often is dumb as f**k. Have a central thumbnail directory (Linux, Android, others?), not that file in every folder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Well, I will agree that Windows does suck, but for other reasons that you mention here. Anyway, go grab Lock Hunter to see what is locking a directory/file and a way to actually unlock it too. I still wonder to this date why Windows can't do this for you. Would be way better to have than Ink.
    Used to have a program simply called "Unlocker" for this back in XP days. To be fair, this problem doesn't happen as often now, but still just as annoying. Dumb as hell that anyone should have to download a program to reveal this information. "Something has the file open", what the #&% is the something? This is my computer and I'm not taking a survey here.

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    Ubuntu and Arch were good to me for 6 years. I think it's honestly just my GPU dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epy View Post
    Used to have a program simply called "Unlocker" for this back in XP days. To be fair, this problem doesn't happen as often now, but still just as annoying. Dumb as hell that anyone should have to download a program to reveal this information. "Something has the file open", what the #&% is the something? This is my computer and I'm not taking a survey here.
    You don't have to convince me. If we could just convince Microsoft to focus on the basics instead of adding Ink and trying to make users puke from the horrible UI...
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epy View Post
    The problem there is that the idea of having this retard file everywhere that causes this error to occur often is dumb as f**k. Have a central thumbnail directory (Linux, Android, others?), not that file in every folder.
    Central thumbnal databases are equally annoying if you happen to live in a place like mine that is constantly hit by power cuts. Ideally, what I would really want would be no thumbnail crap. Just mime types and their respective icons. I don't need no thumbnails and assuming I would because I was designer or photographer and was too lazy to fire up my resource management application the likes of Bridge and whatnot (and I should just kill myself for being lazy), then I'd take the ability to turn on thumbnails just for a given folder hierarchy.

    In fact, why not? I'll see if I can remove entirely thumbnails from MATE.

    This is hilarious because Linux is giving me nothing but problems right now lol.
    Having a few problems myself with Arch lately. It's because I did not respect one of my golden rules to not Syyu the system after having missed a huge chunk of updates. My fault.
    Fortunately I'm on the process of leaving Arch, so it really isn't bothering me much. Will be staying on Ubuntu-Mate and wait patiently for Solus to become appealing enough.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Agree Mario, I don't need thumbnails either. Think I'll see how I can disable it altogether later actually.

    Aside: sorry y'all for all the rants/raves lately, have not had a good last couple of weeks.

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    Hey, no. Keep on. Rants are good. I always see them as the result of someone who still maintains a good balance between critical reasoning and emotion. I won't deny some themes do benefit from a more cold and thoughtful analysis. But they too can benefit from an earlier rant that help put them on the public agenda. Others are just mundane enough that can be largely used in rant form and breach through certain norms that are trying to turn emotion into some sort of enemy of the rational or politically correct. Or as a means to escape as was your case.

    And rants are also becoming more and more the only means we have of bringing themes or frustrations into the consideration of others. Our press is becoming largely irrelevant in their ability to raise debate or to invigilate. They are becoming echo chambers, reporting ipsis verbis the source of the news. How many times we feel shocked by both a news piece content and how irrelevant the reporter questions were? Or on the tech sector, how many times do we find that its media has taken on to simply copying press releases and the so-called reviews only reflect the writer commercial preferences and not a distanced, unbiased and more scientific approach to product review for the benefit of the consumer?

    While the word "rant" may started to gain a bad connotation because of the internet culture that meanwhile imposed itself on our lives, it's important to remember that before the late 90s, "rant" was an appropriate form of expressing our feelings and thoughts on issues that were dear to us or affected us somehow. We were perhaps more alive then than we are today if we insist on muzzling our human instincts and removing emotion from our speech on any matter of this world.

    Rant. Rant on. Don't fall to the pressure of those who downplay emotional speech as a subspecies of discussion. Those that ridicule "rant", or those that deem it as lesser form of expression, are only stripping Debate from one of the most important engines of human Reasoning. Theirs the ignorance.
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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    In that case, we should also discuss how frustrating and painful Linux can truly be. I also hate to say it but... drivers. I love Linux but it doesn't have the same commercial support and as such isn't a huge target for companies whose goal is to make money. So what winds up happening is, I can be delightfully enjoying some Ubuntu only to have a routine system upgrade break my system and then suddenly require me to be a decently experienced sys admin. I never thought I'd be as calm as I am when something breaks and I have to dip into root mode through grub or know that ctrl - alt - f1/f2/f3... allow me to still connect to a terminal, even in the face of GPU failure. The thing is, I never wanted to know these things.

    Linux is lucky that Windows make developing on it so abhorrent for anything that isn't a scripting language.

    Though I must admit, Ubuntu's `apt` is one of the better package managers I've used. When I was on Arch, `pacman` never thought to come up with useful suggestions based on what I had typed in. That was what also surprised me about the Haskell compiler. It's a lot more "friendly" than C++'s is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MutantJohn View Post
    In that case, we should also discuss how frustrating and painful Linux can truly be. I also hate to say it but... drivers. I love Linux but it doesn't have the same commercial support and as such isn't a huge target for companies whose goal is to make money. So what winds up happening is, I can be delightfully enjoying some Ubuntu only to have a routine system upgrade break my system and then suddenly require me to be a decently experienced sys admin. I never thought I'd be as calm as I am when something breaks and I have to dip into root mode through grub or know that ctrl - alt - f1/f2/f3... allow me to still connect to a terminal, even in the face of GPU failure. The thing is, I never wanted to know these things.

    Linux is lucky that Windows make developing on it so abhorrent for anything that isn't a scripting language.

    Though I must admit, Ubuntu's `apt` is one of the better package managers I've used. When I was on Arch, `pacman` never thought to come up with useful suggestions based on what I had typed in. That was what also surprised me about the Haskell compiler. It's a lot more "friendly" than C++'s is.
    Are you using an Ubuntu derivative or?

    Also, I would argue that while valid and frustrating, apples to oranges. Windows should work well because people pay for it. I ain't mad at Joe Code on the weekends doing Linux patches. To be fair though, the graphics card manufacturers need to get on it more for Linux.

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