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    yet another M$ fail

    Microsoft removes policies from Windows 10 Pro - gHacks Tech News

    1. Annoy everyone with Windows 10 upgrade notifiers passing them as critical updates
    2. Force-install Windows 10 on some of the people who didn't agree to upgrade
    3. Turn Windows into spyware with its new level of invasiveness
    4. Be ........ty in general, putting out turd after turd
    5. Take away important features from the pro version (which is widely distributed in work environments, very important to turn that stupid ass Windows Store and all of its apps off), forcing businesses to upgrade to enterprise or avoid the anniversary update, leaving them vulnerable.
    5. ...
    6. Profit!!!

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    So they're going to push businesses to Enterprise and everyone else to Home by making Pro ugly.

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    If Microsoft is removing so much from the Pro Version, then why
    bother creating it in the first place? They should of stopped at
    Home and Enterprise.

    To me it seems like a waste of:

    *Programmers time
    *Their own time
    *Consumers time
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    Thanks Microsoft, you ass*****.
    Windows 10 is just spiralling downwards. When will it end? Maybe I should try disabling Windows Update.
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    The idea of simplifying the range of distributions of their consumer OS does make sense. That OS is so generalized now that even a Home and an Enterprise version is perhaps one version too many. It seems they are just wanting to kill the Pro version.

    Of course, doing it after people installed that version and only after the free upgrade offer ended is just another typical d... move of this company.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Yeah, nice one M$. Make all existing hardware for people who do a fresh install of Windows
    obsolete. Oh, and by the way, do you have about $1000 kicking around? That's more or less
    the cost of a digital signature, and no single developer can even do this, it must be an
    industry or business.

    Rule of thumb - keep your version of W10 for as long as possible and prey it never
    crashes. I should of stuck with Windows Vista....
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    You can get the digital signature for cheaper at digicert. Goes for ~$300 a pop per year, and you can get a ~60% discount when getting 3 certificates. Which means you will still be paying ~$300 per year (you gotta love marketing!). This is a big issue to FOSS developers in the Windows community. But not as big as $1000/year.

    What we do know however is that this will do jack to Windows stability or security, when Microsoft themselves have been known to have pushed broken WHQL drivers before (and will keep doing it in the future). If they can't do it for themselves, what are the odds that their revision process for 3rd party drivers will be any better? And of course, $300/year is a good price to pay if you are in the type of spam/spying/malware business with expected financial gains (which is how the malware boat is floating these days). Meanwhile non tech users will be given a false sense of security, complete with MS marketing BS, that because drivers are signed, Windows is now the most stable and secure OS ever. We just know, of course, that malware of all kinds will just keep on crawling into the home and corporate Windows user. But hush... don't be such a wet blanket!

    But what do I know, right? I mean I don't even use Windows anymore (good f... riddance!). I'm on linux where drivers are not signed in any way. That's why Linux is the most insecure operating system out there...
    Last edited by Mario F.; 08-01-2016 at 08:18 AM.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Pretty much means we won't be upgrading any more computers at work to Windows 10. We use all kinds of instrumentation with unsigned drivers, stuff made for XP really.

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    ...confirming paranoia that letting Windows have access to your distro is bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Epy View Post
    Now it's just getting sad.
    Microsoft knows their users will tolerate the abuse. Who can blame them for taking advantage of this fact?
    Last edited by Yarin; 08-03-2016 at 02:45 PM.

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    Way to party!
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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