Thread: VS Studio Community Setup Questions

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    VS Studio Community Setup Questions

    I have created an Acct at the Visual Studio Community 2015 site and logged in. I don't have a personal Page, it asked me in the beginning for that. I hope that's not required ?

    Iím retired and want to use the community free version for non commerce use, but I come from the distant past (I last owned VS 2005) so all this new cloud stuff is a bit new to me.

    I posted some setup questions on their forum but it's a lot more cryptic to navigate than this forum. And their anti bot characters are horrible to make out, had to go thru 5 new tries to post a question. Also when I tried to setup a thread subscription it crashed and said "please try again later".

    So what the heck thought I'd ask the questions here, since you guys are very knowledgeable bout stuff.

    (1)Do I download and install VC Community version, or does it run all from the MS cloud site?

    (2) Does it come with source for debugging lib traces?

    (3) Does MFC libs, includes & debugging source etc come with it?

    (4) Will 2015 VS community run on Win7 ?

    (5) What (if any) other prerequisites do I need to install to support it?

    That's all, thanks for any help you can throw my way, greatly appreciated.

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    (1) You can still get express by itself, not sure what extras community has, link here: Visual Studio Express
    (2/3/4) Yes
    (5) the installer will install all prereqs for you automatically

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epy View Post
    (1) You can still get express by itself, not sure what extras community has, link here: Visual Studio Express
    (2/3/4) Yes
    (5) the installer will install all prereqs for you automatically
    Thank you. At their site I read of some folks (probably isolated) having some issues on install and wanted to make sure it of any parameters before getting into it.

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    Express doesn't contain MFC or other advanced features. Community is the way to go. Everything is included to get you started, just run the installer and you should be set to go.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Express doesn't contain MFC or other advanced features. Community is the way to go. Everything is included to get you started, just run the installer and you should be set to go.
    Thanks Elysia, as soon as I get some other current chores finished, I'm on that Community install. Hopefully before the end of this week. And thanks again for previously explaining it's advantages to me on another thread. It will beat my current Dev C for sure. However for quick loads and small experiments I like the Dev C in spite of a few quirks it has. Will still keep it around.

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    I just recommended VS2015 over VS2005. There are other good IDEs out there. Code::Blocks is another example. Be sure to use an up-to-date compiler! VS2015 and Code::Blocks (with MinGW) ships with one. Other IDEs--not so sure!
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    I just recommended VS2015 over VS2005. There are other good IDEs out there. Code::Blocks is another example. Be sure to use an up-to-date compiler! VS2015 and Code::Blocks (with MinGW) ships with one. Other IDEs--not so sure!
    Gotcha, I'm using Ver 5.11 of Dev C with the MinGW compiler and TDM-GCC 4.9.2 Debugger, but aware the IDE is no longer a maintained project. It just loads quick and I've gotten used to it and it's quirks. I also tried the wxDev C IDE with widgets integration that's somewhat similar but not as active and prolly not as maintained as CodeBlocks.

    But I miss the in depth debug step thru of the libs source that I used to do with my old VC studio. It was tedious but it really taught me a lot of what the MFC and C++ Libs were actually doing for me behind the scenes. Also the source click on definitions were easier for lib classes & funcs, going all the way to the original type defines for most if you were willing to keep clicking.

    Looking forward to trying the new community edition.

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