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    Hi

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    First, I must introduce myself. I'm 20 years old and I study computer science 4 years. Now I'm in 1 class and teacher teaches C programming my school friends so suck. I want to write for Android programming 2 years later. First I will learn C later c++ and java for Android. But sometimes I don't be motive. I want to study a lot but My exams are so boring ,sometimes I don't study C.

    Can I do it ? I want to be prof. coder.
    Please some suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDeath View Post
    I want to write for Android programming 2 years later. First I will learn C later c++ and java for Android. But sometimes I don't be motive. I want to study a lot but My exams are so boring ,sometimes I don't study C.

    Can I do it ? I want to be prof. coder.
    Please some suggestions.
    If your endgame really is just to program for Android, then why are you wasting your time with C and C++ first? Just go learn Java!


    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDeath View Post
    my school friends so suck
    Suck as in, bad at programming, or bad at being friends?



    Also... what is your native language?

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    Bad at being friends//Yarin
    I learn C because C is very good for me actually it's very hard but pleasure for me and I learn Data Structures later Algorithm lessons later OOP. List of cources(curriculum). And C is ideal for starter I think. I know a lot of subjects in C so that I will learn JAVA,C++ same logic isnt' it? LOOPS, ARRAYS VS..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDeath View Post
    Can I do it ? I want to be prof. coder.
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    I don't think you can. If you get so bored at programming you will never be a professional programmer. Go find something else to do with your life.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    I don't think you can. If you get so bored at programming you will never be a professional programmer. Go find something else to do with your life.
    You are hurtful . I mean, I don't like studying Chemistry,Physic and other unnessecary lessons. I am not bored at programming. Programming is my life. I don't play any entsrumant something like that. I like beeing discipline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDeath View Post
    But sometimes I don't be motive. I want to study a lot but My exams are so boring ,sometimes I don't study C.
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    You are hurtful.
    Is this one of those be positive threads? Sorry, I'm not good at it. I only give good advise. Not the advise that you want to hear.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    I don't give up learning programming. NEVER NEVER NEVER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDeath View Post
    You are hurtful . I mean, I don't like studying Chemistry,Physic and other unnessecary lessons. I am not bored at programming. Programming is my life. I don't play any entsrumant something like that. I like beeing discipline.
    Mario is kind of right though, if you feel ready to give up the first year because you are "bored", then being a software developer is probably not for you.

    Personally I think that if you started studying computer science at a university level and didn't know how to program before that, then you will probably not make it. This is from personal experience.

    At least when I studied computer science 15 years ago (has it been that long?!?) the ones that couldn't code before attending where gone in 1 year, unless they where exceptional at the theoretical side of computer science.

    But maybe things where harder back then, from what I hear from former class mates that actually teach courses at university level now, most students know hardly any math and think writing html is "coding".

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    But sometimes I don't be motive. I want to study a lot but My exams are so boring ,sometimes I don't study C.
    O_o

    I went to a crappy school. The university adviser told me "Your programming class will be very difficult." because I didn't have any advanced placement training under my belt. The class was an introduction to the C++ programming language. I got plenty of training under my belt between that meeting and the start of classes.

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    I changed that because the point was broken...
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    If you aren't studying programming just because required subjects are a bore, you aren't going to make a professional developer. We don't often get to pick what we want to code. We have to do all the tedious work between the fun stuff. If you can't do that effectively, we don't want you.

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    Are you serious guys ? It's my job. Please help me. I don't want anything. YOU guys so incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDeath View Post
    Are you serious guys ? It's my job. Please help me. I don't want anything. YOU guys so incredible.
    Wat? How can you want help and nothing at the same time?

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    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDeath View Post
    I learn C because C is very good for me actually it's very hard but pleasure for me and I learn Data Structures later Algorithm lessons later OOP.
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    And C is ideal for starter I think.
    C is the worst possible intro language possible. You're not going to be writing Android apps in C, so you're wasting your time with that.
    Maybe it's a requirement, and if so, then that's life, but if not, then you're wasting your time.

    I know a lot of subjects in C so that I will learn JAVA,C++ same logic isnt' it? LOOPS, ARRAYS VS..
    C and C++/Java are worlds apart.
    The first steps to learning those languages is to unlearn C first.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDeath View Post
    Are you serious guys ? It's my job. Please help me. I don't want anything. YOU guys so incredible.
    Try not to fret if other people think you can make it. The truth is that it's up to you, if you work hard enough, and keep putting one foot in front of the other, eventually you will realize the thing you are working toward.

    As for finding it boring, things will become less boring the more code you begin to write on your own. Then, instead of learning an algorithm by rote, you will be learning it thinking "I can use this to do so much more in my own code!".

    A lot of my favorite programming books (like for instance "The Algorithm Design Manual"), present you with a problem first, and encourage you to solve it before reading farther. Almost invariably I come back after solving it (or not), and am stunned that the solution was so simple and clever. It's this sort of beauty in coding that makes it such a sustainable enjoyment (even when writing code for other people).

    Programming is also one of the most flexible skills I've seen. I have a childhood friend who began programming very early, writing games in C++ before his teens. He graduated a PHD in computer science, and now works in genomics (he still makes games too). I can't think of very many other skillsets that are applicable to so many different areas of interest. In truth I'm pretty jealous of him (and you ), for taking the opportunity to get into programming so much earlier than I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post
    Mario is kind of right though, if you feel ready to give up the first year because you are "bored", then being a software developer is probably not for you.

    Personally I think that if you started studying computer science at a university level and didn't know how to program before that, then you will probably not make it. This is from personal experience.

    At least when I studied computer science 15 years ago (has it been that long?!?) the ones that couldn't code before attending where gone in 1 year, unless they where exceptional at the theoretical side of computer science.

    But maybe things where harder back then, from what I hear from former class mates that actually teach courses at university level now, most students know hardly any math and think writing html is "coding".
    I think it's because most modern CS jobs don't require much math.

    Not that I'm a professional coder or anything but from what I've seen, the only jobs are in GUI design and web development. Or you make something like Word which requires math but not like finding orthonormal bases for a set of vectors or anything like that.

    Edit : I am super jelly because my mom does the documentation for a CAD/CAM software company. I wish they'd hire me to do the math. That'd be fun.

    Okay, there are jobs in programming that still require a bunch of math. There's one company that actually uses the meshes I program to track heat diffusion during the manufacturing process. It also makes really accurate simulations of tool paths as they carve the part out of the material.

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