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    Here's one for the books....

    Most of the people operating my computer systems have their desktops set for single click... (who wouldn't ?)

    Since upgrading everyone to Windows 7, we've been plagued by incomplete loads of webpages and hesitations in some browser fronted programs that we could not explain... For example: one in 4 or 5 times I would have to click refresh several times in IE to get this site to load completely.

    It was driving us crazy...

    Until the other day a new user joined one of the companie's I've written code for... in this case a browser driven interface was used. He called me up and said he was having trouble double clicking his desktop... So I went over there and he had set his machine for double clicks...

    I sat in the office noticing all the failed page loads but his was working perfectly... ODD!

    So I came home and did some experimenting with the mouse settings... What I found was that by lengthening the double click time the load problems cleared right up... Even on a single click desktop...

    Now I have no utter idea how the double click timer affects page loads in IE... but there you have it... Maxing out the double click (longest time between clicks) clears up a long time problem with incomplete web page loads...

    Go figure....

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    Are you serious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epy View Post
    Are you serious?
    I kid you not!

    Windows 7 x64 ... verified now on 6 different systems, including my own.

    Conrol Panel -> Mouse -> Buttons -> Double-click speed...

    All the way left... works like a charm
    All the way right ... IE starts messing up severely.

    The symptom is that a web page will not load completely... for example the images will be missing ... or you will get an "Internet explorer cannot open this webpage" error. Hitting Refresh usually gets the rest of the page. But I have no idea how moving that slider for the double click speed affects it... It's a USB mouse, if that matters.
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    That is crazy... Of course, anyone with half a (computing) brain would dump IE. That would be the best fix of all
    But, if push comes to shove and you absolutely must fix this, I would try to hook the double-click timer, and 'disable'/auto-clear it for IE. Should be possible, though incredibly hacky to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarin View Post
    That is crazy... Of course, anyone with half a (computing) brain would dump IE. That would be the best fix of all
    But, if push comes to shove and you absolutely must fix this, I would try to hook the double-click timer, and 'disable'/auto-clear it for IE. Should be possible, though incredibly hacky to do.
    It's insane to be sure. This just started up with Service Pack 1... no idea what's causing it.
    However, it now appears that once you wiggle the slider in that dialog it clears up and doesn't do it again.
    Stranger and stranger.

    Now all I gotta figure out is why uTorrent balks and stammers and locks up on Win7 x64, but works fine on any 32 bit OS... that one seems to be an issue in uT itself though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
    Now all I gotta figure out is why uTorrent balks and stammers and locks up on Win7 x64, but works fine on any 32 bit OS... that one seems to be an issue in uT itself though...
    Works fine for me. Must be a compute central issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
    ...the companie's...
    Omg... what is wrong with us Germans? It began as borrowing an English grammar rule into our language, expanded to what we call "moron apostrophe", and now, as such, it's back in the English language. World War I, World War II, and now the silent invasion of German stupidity and language incompetence? For heaven's sake, can't we just leave the world alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis.cpp View Post
    Omg... what is wrong with us Germans? It began as borrowing an English grammar rule into our language, expanded to what we call "moron apostrophe", and now, as such, it's back in the English language. World War I, World War II, and now the silent invasion of German stupidity and language incompetence? For heaven's sake, can't we just leave the world alone?
    Settle down! ... it's a stray apostrophe, not the end of the world.

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    Haha. Just made me laugh so hard... because that's really something very wide-spread in Germany.

    See, we originally don't have the genitive-s split by an apostrophe in German. But as the English language became more and more important within one profession after the other, a lot of people got used to writing it "English style" - though it's definitely wrong in German.

    Then something awkward happened; the apostrophe-s combination became used in all sorts of grammatical context, even the most hilarious ones. So we started calling it "moron apostrophe", or "idiot apostrophe", however you wish to translate it.

    So that's the background; and when I saw you as a Canadian doing something like this in the English language - where, in a totally wrong adoption, our German "moron apostrophe" does originate - , I was just like, 'oh no! Now we even spoiled their language'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis.cpp View Post
    Then something awkward happened; the apostrophe-s combination became used in all sorts of grammatical context, even the most hilarious ones. So we started calling it "moron apostrophe", or "idiot apostrophe", however you wish to translate it.
    I somehow see this as surrealistically analogous to the role of IE in the evolution of the web (btw, thanks for the heads-up CT).
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    I can make some guesses here...
    The double click timing might get "hot" when set to very short intervals, causing noise in the mouse output to be registered as clicks.
    Just speculation, but have you tried what happens with a short dc interval and no mouse hardware attached at all (or higher spec mouse hardware)?

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