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    Proper attire

    Hello again everyone,
    I am going on a job shadow tomorrow to job shadow a software engineer because that's what I want to be when I grow up, but my mom is insisting that I wear fancy dancy clothes. Do software engineers actually wear nice clothes to work or do they just wear casual clothes?

    btw if you really must know I am job shadowing someone at Esterline Avista if you know what that is.

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    Hard to tell. It's often worth asking when you get the job.

    I'd go smart. People don't get funny with you if you have a tie when everyone else doesn't, but they may do if its the other way around.

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    Hard to tell beforehand, it depends on what kind of company it is and what kind of culture they have there. If it is a job within the banking sector I think you might be expected to wear nicer clothes, but if it's in the industry (where I work) jeans and a t-shirt is just fine. Never seen anyone doing code in a suit all day though :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xniinja
    Do software engineers actually wear nice clothes to work or do they just wear casual clothes?
    I wear nice casual clothes to work. Actually, I wore more formal attire back when the office was in the city area, but after we moved to the suburbs, I stopped bothering since I do not meet clients.

    Anyway, I agree with Fordy: it is safer to go for something more formal, then adjust subsequently.
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    At where I worked before, people wore fluffy slippers to work...

    That's a game company, though.

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    It's hard to beat a sharp looking tux.


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    Wear a suit and tie, even if the company normally waers casual dress. Show them you can be client facing if required.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfish View Post
    At where I worked before, people wore fluffy slippers to work...

    That's a game company, though.
    When on-site working on the trains in the outback I have to wear a safety yellow vest with reflective stripes, bottle green pants/shirt, hard hat, gloves, steel caps, safety glasses and a kilo of flies....
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    Well, at my job shadow everyone wore nice casual clothes. You know, the clothes you could wear to church then wear to Wal-mart and still fit in. I fit right in. I don't have a suit, If I did I would wear it to school every day

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    There is no simple answer. Most places in the US are ok with street clothes or business casual, but it depends. The clients I work for are international bankers and they wear suits which probably cost a month of my salary -- I dress fancy when I meet with them, but I didn't one time, and nothing dramatic happened. When I'm in a federal reserve branch I dress up, when in the office I've been known to wear a jogging suit. Point is, who knows. Your mom probably does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xniinja View Post
    Do software engineers actually wear nice clothes to work or do they just wear casual clothes?
    If you ever see one, that's not me.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    If you ever see one, that's not me.
    I chuckled. Then I wondered why.

    a) You meant if you ever see a nice dressed one, it's not you.
    b) You meant if you ever see a casual one, it's not you.
    c) You meant if you ever see a software engineer, it's not you.

    Now I'm chuckling in a confused sort of way. (Which isn't all that uncommon.)


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    I abused irony, I agree.

    Just a way to point out it doesn't matter. Software engineers dress up in all ways. Like when crashing parties, a big part of the success is just knowing how to dress up for the occasion.

    As you noted, the answer is dubious. Which makes it true.
    Last edited by Mario F.; 10-26-2011 at 05:04 AM.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Oh, I missed one!

    d) If you see someone ... it won't be me, because I never leave my cave/basement/secret lair!


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    b and d are my favorite. And true on many occasions.

    Not long ago I was told by an oracle database designer, for whom I was designing a front-end, that dates for birthday and for warranty date were in different formats on the database respectively because they were used by two different native applications which didn't understand the other format. They were dd/mm/yyyy and mm/dd/yyyy, respectively. Suddenly I didn't feel comfortable as a software engineer and wanted to pretend to be something else as he went on and on about how we are all a bunch of incompetent fools.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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