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    BEST IDEA in 2010

    We have a VERY good idea here at work.

    We want a compiler that immediately twitters all compiler errors!

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    Ok, not wanting to discuss what I think about Twitter (not pretty), but you really don't want a compiler to do that. Much easier to simply call the compiler from an application you build and capture the output. There's then plenty of opportunities to properly format the error messages and how it gets... urgh, twitted.

    edit: With any chance, you may even realize the value of email (yeah, email is still around. Don't let that depress you) and include that possibility.
    Last edited by Mario F.; 12-13-2010 at 09:49 AM.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIBO View Post
    We have a VERY good idea here at work.

    We want a compiler that immediately twitters all compiler errors!
    Trusting you are not having a little joke at our expense....

    My question would be just how badly you want to embarass your programming staff.

    Think globally...
    This could be a typical conversation at a corporate buying decision half way 'round the world...

    "Yeah well, I don't think we want that KIBO software. I saw on Twitter where they're having all kinds of problems with software errors ..."

    NEVER... ever... not once... don't even think about it... put anything on line that you a) are not proud of or b) cannot contain.

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    Another question is how useful do you think this information can possibly be to anyone but yourself. In a typical development environment each person works on their own code, with any compiler errors being only relevant to that task. When you commit, you commit only working code (otherwise you'll get very unpopular very fast). What could I possibly care about compiler errors on someone else's code?

    Perhaps twitting release builds compiler errors has some value to it. But again, given the limits on twitter messages, an email should be a much better approach. I suspect you never saw a templates related error message...
    Last edited by Mario F.; 12-13-2010 at 10:33 AM.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIBO View Post
    We have a VERY good idea here at work.

    We want a compiler that immediately twitters all compiler errors!
    If I may ask, what does your boss think of this?

    Without knowing why exactly you would want to do this, I completely agree with Mario and Tater, e-mail would be much better choice.

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    To me it seems pretty obvious that he is joking.
    "The Internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxorator View Post
    To me it seems pretty obvious that he is joking.
    I certainly hope he is...

    BUT... being around the internet practically since the beginning, I gotta say I've seen dumber things than this pass as good ideas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
    I gotta say I've seen dumber things than this pass as good ideas...

    Remember B2B?
    Gosh, how I hated buzzwords then and still do! And how stupid I thought the whole concept was (not alone on that) and how easy it was to predict it to be a complete flop and a lot of nonsense. Still, if you were to say anything wrong about business-to-business back in 2000 everyone would call you... visionless. The irony kills me.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    Remember B2B?
    Gosh, how I hated buzzwords then and still do! And how stupid I thought the whole concept was (not alone on that) and how easy it was to predict it to be a complete flop and a lot of nonsense. Still, if you were to say anything wrong about business-to-business back in 2000 everyone would call you... visionless. The irony kills me.
    Yeah, I remember that one... didn't last long... but then again, these "highly visionary" ideas seldom do. The ones that tend to stick around are the "We really need this" ideas that just make sense from the beginning... You know, the ones nobody takes any notice of.

    My next "big flop" prediction is "cloud computing"... I'm just waiting till all these businesses figure out that all their magical "web aps" are being harvested for data and advertising info. The only place data is actually secure is in a computer that's turned off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
    My next "big flop" prediction is "cloud computing"...
    As a means for enterprises to manage their core business, I'm in complete agreement. That hype will eventually, if it's not already, die miserably. But as a means for companies to provide service-as-a-product to end customers, I do see some value in cloud computing. What I'm not sure is if many companies are willing to have their service be dependent on 3rd parties, particularly on what comes to security.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    As a means for enterprises to manage their core business, I'm in complete agreement. That hype will eventually, if it's not already, die miserably. But as a means for companies to provide service-as-a-product to end customers, I do see some value in cloud computing. What I'm not sure is if many companies are willing to have their service be dependent on 3rd parties, particularly on what comes to security.
    Exactly... it's one giant security leak waiting to happen.

    A far better setup would be the good old IIS setup where customers can access controlled areas of a company's own servers. It may be a pain to setup (certianly, I hated doing it) but once running enterprise operators can trust their data is contained.

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    That hype will eventually, if it's not already, die miserably.
    I certainly hope so; I get so tired of hearing about that crap. I've even seen local companies (Muscle Shoals) spewing crap like "We are moving to the cloud!" in their newest advertisements.

    Vleeeck!

    Soma

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    Ah yes, some use the cloud. The hype is justified.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    KIBO, just redirect the output to an application that "tweets" whatever it's fed as input.

    Edit: cURL would probably work.
    Last edited by Subsonics; 12-14-2010 at 12:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomotap View Post
    I certainly hope so; I get so tired of hearing about that crap. I've even seen local companies (Muscle Shoals) spewing crap like "We are moving to the cloud!" in their newest advertisements.

    Vleeeck!

    Soma
    Yeah... and in a year or so we'll see "Data security ensured by non-cloud applications"...

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