Thread: Microsoft Kinect (formerly Natal)

Originally Posted by phantomotap

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That's some nice fanaticism. The only part of "Mario Galaxy" that used motion sensing (not the "light gun technology"), as far as I can remember, was twitching the controller to make Mario spin. Even the mechanic bits using the pointer felt like a horrible last minute addition to the game.

"Mario Galaxy" was an great game. It would be awesome if you could play it with an XBox 360 or PS3 controller.

There's also the ball rolling and the stingray surfing.

If motion sensing is so awesome, tell us a game that makes good use of it. I don't want to look like a fool while playing the game. I don't want a pathetic experience. I want a decent mechanic that isn't exhausting or annoying. Where is this game?
Soma

Red Steal 2

Originally Posted by The Escapist

Over three years after the Wii hit store shelves, Red Steel 2 finally delivers the motion-controlled swordplay we expected from the original Red Steel, and it more than makes up for any niggling flaws in the level design

Tiger Woods PGA 10

Originally Posted by 1Up

With the addition of MotionPlus, Woods 10 on the Wii is a fantastic golfing videogame, besting its console counterparts because of its control options, extra courses, party game modes, and Frolf. Not to mention, it's casual friendly for anyone to play, but with enough difficulty options for the hardcore to stay interested. It's almost hard to imagine it getting better than this for the foreseeable future.

Wii Sports Resort

Originally Posted by Giant Bomb

Resort is the big showcase for Nintendo's sensitivity-enhancing brick, and it works very well. Wii Sports Resort and the MotionPlus combine to finally make good on all the promises that the Wii originally made back in 2006. Remember all the dopey models, hiding behind couches and twisting on-screen swords with lifelike precision? With the MotionPlus attached, everything feels just a bit closer to that reality. It's probably most noticeable in the sword fighting game, where you have to swing at multiple angles to get around your opponent's defense. The sword stuff ended up being my favorite game of the lot, actually. It just feels right.

And e3 impressions of the new Legend of Zelda

Originally Posted by Giant Bomb

Precise one-to-one sword movement, smooth and accurate aiming, the visceral impact of moving the remote and nunchuk as if you were fighting with a sword and shield... all that stuff is in here, and I thought it felt great to play.

...the sword attacks now follow the way you swing the remote precisely enough that you feel like you've pretty much got total control over the way you attack. You can even jab the remote straight out to thrust your sword directly into enemies. It's a neat effect.

Now go ahead and nitpick and say how none of this
matters, or how you don't want to "look like a fool" or
"exhaust" yourself playing these games. But those
are your personal problems that have nothing to do
with the technology itself.

If you seriously become exhausted with this technology,
you have may have some serious health concerns.
I would get that checked out.

The biggest problem is that many people simply say motion sensing is a gimmick just because it hasn't provided any sensible experience yet.
It is more correct to say that the technology isn't at fault, it is still untested. The games are gimmicks because they fail to deliver a promising experience with the technology.
That much is fine to admit, but dismissing technology that is still unproven is just wrong.

Many things have existed before, and many things have been tested before. Yet, something that was unpopular in the past may yet become popular in the future.
I don't really think the technology has been properly tested. You'd have to name some games that properly implement motion controls that works. The new Zelda is the only game I know of that implements good motion controls that seems to work properly.
I do believe it is the way of the future, because I simply do no see Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony dropping it in the near future. They've all invested a lot of money into it.

*shrug* I believe it is the future. It may not be a statement, then, as you say.

Actually, the future is a complete collapse of civilization
and with it most forms technology. So this debate is
ultimately pointless.

Originally Posted by Elysia

*shrug* I believe it is the future.

Why? What makes you believe that? It's quite extraordinary that claim. No past evidence to support it and no real evidence in the present to sustain it. Just a handful of niche and specifically tailored games that offer a modicum amount of motion detection at certain key points, and not always effectively.

I could say the future of gaming is controllers. And there is no way you can contradict me. My case is stronger. I have history to support me and the numbers of games across all genres using controllers, keyboard and the mouse as a means of input today and for the foreseeable future.

You are doing futurology to hide your real motivation. i.e. You wish motion detection will be the future. This whole debate wouldn't have started if you'd be honest about it from the beginning.

Originally Posted by Mario F.

Why? What makes you believe that? It's quite extraordinary that claim. No past evidence to support it and no real evidence in the present to sustain it. Just a handful of niche and specifically tailored games that offer a modicum amount of motion detection at certain key points, and not always effectively.

Because games that implement it well are awesome to play. MP3 was a good one. The new zelda will hopefully be too.

Not for you, but for me. Even if minority, it will definitely stay into the future.