Quote Originally Posted by Subsonics View Post
Yes people have opinions on alot of things, just look at a typical youtube comment section, that doesn't mean that they care enough to inform themselves. The idea that these people should pass the laws scares me.
At least people that go into politics have the passion and interest to persue it. Anyone who feels that way also have the oportunity to do the same and get a higher degree of influence.
If you don't feel that way, lack the interest and motivation, then you should not have direct influence on the details involved in governing the state IMO.

Also, the way matters are presented in media, especially television is a cut down simplified version, here the journalist does the research for the viewer/reader and presents the essentials, according to them. Things that doesn't sell, won't get presented, the same goes for "boring details". Media presents their views in a rhetoric fashion, rather than just the dry information.
So how many ignorant/stupid people you have? If you think we are talking about 70-80% then yes, I will agree with you. If you think we are talking about 40-50% then no, I won't agree. Half of those won't vote. The other half will [b]randomly[b/] vote since they are ignorant. The result? They did nothing really. Even if 80% of the half that will vote is biased towards something, because they are also stupid, then we are talking about 20% of the vote is going to be "scary". For me that kind of numbers are worth it.

You are thinking about worst case scenarios here were all the ignorant will want to vote and will vote for the same thing. And that this worst case scenario will happen for the majority of votes. Is that really a reasonable scenario?

Passion and interest is good if you use it for something good. Because you have reps that work for personal interest. Give people power and you know what they will do. So you gain voters that are more informed with a price of giving them power and motivation to abuse their power. I feel that the second has a greater effect.

Yes, the media isn't good. You think the politicians today don't know it? So they use them. If you cannot see the truth, you won't be able to judge a rep. As you cannot judge a law. It is a flaw that applies to all democracies, isn't that so?