What about the Millenium Falcon?
What about the Millenium Falcon?
Well, one pixel is 10 meters, so feel free to put two pixels just about anywhere on that page and you'll have your millennium falcon. The falcon however, definitely wasn't 10 meters tall, so you couldn't put it to scale if you wanted to.Originally Posted by Sharke
As for the Death Star, according to Wookiepedia, the original was 160Km in diameter, which would make it 8 times the size of that entire image. Not hard to understand why it was left out. Try putting VY Canis Majoris and our sun in the same still image.
Last edited by SlyMaelstrom; 05-13-2010 at 06:19 PM.
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I didn't think it looked anywhere near 10 meters in the movies, but according to Wookieepedia:
Technical specifications
Length: 34.75 meters
Width: 25.61 meters
Height/depth: 8.27 meters (including lower cannon and upper sensor array)
I copied it from the last program in which I passed a parameter, which would have been pre-1989 I guess. - esbo
Coincidentally, this is also one of the top ten things *not* to whip out on a date (#1: porn mags, #2: religious pamphlets, #3: comparison chart of fictional spacecraft).
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Where is Death Star?
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> Where is Death Star?
Not drawn to scale
The biggest ship on the picture is only 17km long.
The first Death Star was 160 kilometers in diameter, while the second Death Star was 900 kilometers in diameter.
Vorlon planet killers have been estimated as 50km +/- a few km.
Besides, the TARDIS is the only ship worth having
But that would be too small to cover even a pixel on that diagram.
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Someone with some artistic talent (and time) needs to take that chart and do a video like this with it. Now THAT would be most excellent. And of course it could start out with the TARDIS...
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That's nothing. I'm sure the Dyson Sphere from Star Trek TNG would be the biggest of all, since it had a diameter of about 200 million km.> Where is Death Star?
Not drawn to scale
The biggest ship on the picture is only 17km long.
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Try fitting that into the picture.
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What about V'Ger? That one would rule them all even beating your pesky Dyson sphere.
[edit]My inner geek drools at that image. I wish I could blow it up and make a poster out of it.[/edit]Admiral James T. Kirk is assigned to his old ship, the now updated USS Enterprise, in order to intercept a mysterious and enormous energy cloud (82 AU in diameter, reduced to 2 AU in the special edition) approaching the Sol System.
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Just for fun, considering only the Special Edition 2 AU in diameter:
2 AU = 299,196,000,000 m
1 pixel = 10 m so we would need 29,919,600,000 pixels wide/tall
Assuming a 1600x1200 standard monitor, we would need:
29,919,600,000 / 1200 = 24,933,000 monitors to display it. Or, that zoom rate to display it on a single monitor.
Assuming a JPEG image at the incredibly lowest resolution of 0.13 bit per pixel, the image size in disk would be:
29,919,600,000^2 * 0.13 = 11,637 * 10^19 bits,
or approximately 13 million terabytes.
(didn't triple-check results)
Originally Posted by brewbuck:
Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.
There isn't actually anything stopping you from doing that.I wish I could blow it up and make a poster out of it.
Here is an extension to the previous image
http://www.daltonator.net/fanfics/mu.../truesizes.gif
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And another for some smaller size ships:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4...mall_super.png
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4...dium_super.png
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Last edited by DavidP; 05-14-2010 at 02:40 PM.
Nah, V'Ger was just a big cloud of gas & energy. It's not solid, so I wouldn't count it as a real space station or ship.
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Introducing literature into this would surely change the picture somewhat.
The Culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What's not mentioned there is that the Culture is (mostly) it's ships, since biological entities generally don't live anywhere else, just in ships, but the ships evolved themselves, which is to say, the AI's took over a long long time ago.
If you are a sci-fi fan and can read, those Iain M. Banks novels are not to be missed!! Wikipedia says Dyson Spheres play an occasional minor role in them too, also extremely big since they contain stars. Banks seems to get a real kick moving between tiny "nano" worlds and ridiculously huge ones (eg, Feersum Enjinn*). The Culture has heterogeneous historical origins, I think.
Bank's coined the term "Outside Context Problem" too, altho the concept itself is a central conceit of sci-fi generally.
Can't believe how much wiki stuff on I.M. Banks from that I found in <5mins, hopefully one day they'll make a movie, methinks James Cameron should adapt Excession into the world's first $1 Billion dollar film.Outside Context Problem (OCP), the kind of problem "most civilisations would encounter just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop."
*I have wistful, profound, thoughts now whenever I see ants.
Who would want to date a chick that doesn't like porn and FTL travel?!??
Last edited by MK27; 05-14-2010 at 06:15 PM.
C programming resources:
GNU C Function and Macro Index -- glibc reference manual
The C Book -- nice online learner guide
Current ISO draft standard
CCAN -- new CPAN like open source library repository
3 (different) GNU debugger tutorials: #1 -- #2 -- #3
cpwiki -- our wiki on sourceforge
By my numbers I was suggesting it was 20 meters. At the time, it was a guesstimate, but upon further research I found it to be 26m long, which also seems to be what the more recent image DavidP also shows. You could easily say it would be three pixels by rounding, but it still stands to the fact that you couldn't draw it to scale with height on a 1px:10m ratio. With in itself, it would be fairly accurate at 3x1px but then it would be larger than scale compared to other ships.
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