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    Best Project Management and Revision Control Software?

    I'm planning to create a web server on my upcoming i7 computer this or next month. I want it to have a SVN for my current project.

    I just want to know which is the best project management and revision control software? So far, I'm the only own who is coding on my graphics engine. Is it practical to have these softwares? Do I really need these piece of softwares?

    Yeah, it sound lonely because I'm the only own and honestly, I can't find any reliable person to help me build my graphics engine.

    Anyway, I have a list here but honestly I don't have any time to test all of these. So, I guess just tell me which one you used and tell me if it is good.

    Comparison of project management software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    List of revision control software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarah22
    I just want to know which is the best project management and revision control software?
    What is best depends on your requirements. What do you need?

    Quote Originally Posted by sarah22
    So far, I'm the only own who is coding on my graphics engine. Is it practical to have these softwares? Do I really need these piece of softwares?
    You should use a revision control system even when working alone. I have my own preference as can be seen in my signature, but Subversion could well be fine for your purposes.
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    You should use a revision control system even when working alone.
    Ditto. It's a life-saver when you need a quick backup, or when you need to undo all the changes you've made in the past couple of days

    Subversion could well be fine for your purposes
    It's pretty common, and very user-friendly - so it's a good first choice. As laserlight said, however, it depends on your needs. Based on what you've said though - it sounds like something simple like Subversion is all you need. If you're alone, there's no advantage to learning the new distributed systems, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Ditto. It's a life-saver when you need a quick backup, or when you need to undo all the changes you've made in the past couple of days
    If you're unable to rebuild an older version of your software, then you're just goofing around, not doing real development.
    Code:
    //try
    //{
    	if (a) do { f( b); } while(1);
    	else   do { f(!b); } while(1);
    //}

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    O_o

    WTF!?

    If you'd rather do it by hand... screw it. If you'd rather do it by hand, you're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomotap View Post
    O_o

    WTF!?

    If you'd rather do it by hand... screw it. If you'd rather do it by hand, you're an idiot.

    Soma
    Are you responding to me? Because that's the opposite of what I meant.

    Let's try again.

    If you're unable to rebuild an older version of your software, because you didn't have the foresight to use source control, then you're just goofing around, not doing real development.

    Better?
    Code:
    //try
    //{
    	if (a) do { f( b); } while(1);
    	else   do { f(!b); } while(1);
    //}

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    I kind of like Mercurial SCM with TortoiseHg

    But have a look around and see what works best for you

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    There is always "MK-VCS":

    tar -cjf version.0.1.tbz project/


    This is not as full featured as the other options, but it is extremely easy and works just fine.
    C programming resources:
    GNU C Function and Macro Index -- glibc reference manual
    The C Book -- nice online learner guide
    Current ISO draft standard
    CCAN -- new CPAN like open source library repository
    3 (different) GNU debugger tutorials: #1 -- #2 -- #3
    cpwiki -- our wiki on sourceforge

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    If you don't need merge, Subversion is all you ever need really. Powerful, fast and use it with TortoiseSVN, if under windows, for added goodness. Subversion supports merging but it is crude, really.

    If you need merge (typical if you work on two separate versions of your project and then later need to merge these), then I suggest Mercurial. Check Sean's link above for the GUI overlay.

    If you want a real heavyweight then I suggest Git. For windows you will use the msysgit port. This is, everyone says, one of the best and most complete source control systems. But this is also... a difficult program to use, with a steep learning curve. Embrace yourself and think that you are doing it in the name of Science; you want to prove the world, mankind is able to complicate things way beyond necessary and still have it work for them.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Are you responding to me? [...] Better?
    Yes. I've obviously misunderstood your post. I'm sorry for the confusion.

    And. Yes. That's certainly clearer.

    [Edit]
    Oh. In my not-so-humble opinion, you are insane if you use CVS or SVN for a new project. Use Git, Bazaar, Mercurial, or whatever, but please stay away from CVS and SVN. Please. Pretty please!? ;_;
    [/Edit]

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomotap View Post
    [Edit]
    Oh. In my not-so-humble opinion, you are insane if you use CVS or SVN for a new project. Use Git, Bazaar, Mercurial, or whatever, but please stay away from CVS and SVN. Please. Pretty please!? ;_;
    [/Edit]

    Soma
    I like to throw them off base a little bit by recommending RCS.

    But seriously, I like Perforce. I know a lot of people hate it. I know it's commercial. But you can use it for free if you only have one or two developers.
    Code:
    //try
    //{
    	if (a) do { f( b); } while(1);
    	else   do { f(!b); } while(1);
    //}

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomotap View Post

    [Edit]
    Oh. In my not-so-humble opinion, you are insane if you use CVS or SVN for a new project. Use Git, Bazaar, Mercurial, or whatever, but please stay away from CVS and SVN. Please. Pretty please!? ;_;
    [/Edit]

    Soma
    That's moronic. What if you don't have a choice? And the "best" is whatever is most suited to the task and user. Plus you're forgetting it's one of the most widely used version control suites, which is one reason to use it (not because you're "following the pack") -- but for the same reason you pick standard libraries over some third-party library that does the same thing even if better (because of testing, documentation, training, etc)).
    Last edited by zacs7; 05-05-2010 at 09:29 PM.

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    Ok here's what I did few days ago.

    I tried searching about Git but I found out that it was really made for Linux. It has some port available but you'll noticed some slowdown and glitch. Because of poor support in other OS like windows and mac, I didn't bother installing it. Then, I saw mercurial around which has the best OS support which I think is good because of what it is really meant, to distribute source code around. After playing around with it, I'm going to try bazaar maybe tomorrow and see how good it is.

    By the way, I installed mercurial and redmine on my ubuntu 10.04 on vmware and found out that hamachi doesn't support linux anymore. The latest version I saw was around 2007.

    So, what I plan now is, I'll just register on those free source code repository around the net. Which I think is much better than having it on my home then connect it via hamachi. And using redmine alone on my network is kinda stupid, that's what I think.

    Does sourceforge support mercurial? I heard that they don't have forks so they just go to bitbucket instead. What's fork anyway?

    I want my project to be in private right now. I'll might make it public after finishing most of the important stuffs.

    Thank you
    Sarah

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarah22 View Post
    I tried searching about Git but I found out that it was really made for Linux. It has some port available but you'll noticed some slowdown and glitch.
    You mean msysgit? I'm unsure as to what type of program you are developing that shows a slowdown while using this. I never noticed.

    So, what I plan now is, I'll just register on those free source code repository around the net. Which I think is much better than having it on my home then connect it via hamachi. And using redmine alone on my network is kinda stupid, that's what I think.
    Err... I'm not sure what you want to do. Hamachi? Can you even connect to sourceforge through hamachi? And why would you want to do that?

    Does sourceforge support mercurial?
    Yes.
    Originally Posted by brewbuck:
    Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario F. View Post
    If you don't need merge, Subversion is all you ever need really. Powerful, fast and use it with TortoiseSVN, if under windows, for added goodness. Subversion supports merging but it is crude, really.
    Are you serious? I've heard a lot of bad things about SVN but I've never heard that one. You can't merge? Who the hell would use it for anything?

    Do you mean that it just sucks at resolving conflicts? Because IMHO, that's not a responsibility of a source control system in the first place -- you use an external resolver. Or do you mean that it cannot represent merges in the metadata?
    Code:
    //try
    //{
    	if (a) do { f( b); } while(1);
    	else   do { f(!b); } while(1);
    //}

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