So, Im just gonna get straight to the point im sure this is a simple answer although an hour of google searching has turned up nothing and a few conversions of my own nothing either. If you know what im talking about great .. then you know that OCT 31 is equal to DEC 25.. But ive also been told that programmers cannot distinguish NOV 27 from these too dates either. Converting 27 to binary gives 11011 which is not 11001 which is what you get when you convert DEC 25 or OCT 31 to binary so thats not it.. So .. umm is NOV some kind of measurment as well? or is there another type of conversion that needs to be done.. taking NOV 27 and doing this to it 1127 and converting it to either bin or OCT comes up with nothing either. Maybe a full day of reading has just fryed my brain.. Can anyone clear this simple brain teaser up for me please. ? Thank you.