What?Originally Posted by Sipher
What?
"The Internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore
Proof is all over the internet, where many people blame Visual Studio all the time! Those are not words from my mind!!
You know that DirectX 8 and 9 support was disabled since the last version, and i don't think that anything changed!
What are you talking about? IDEs like Dev C++ or Code::Blocks have no problem with these, only VS does!!min and max are known problems when developing Windows apps. Not specific to the IDE.
I guess you don't want to end agreeing with me....Yes, please. Something concrete.
Sorry, i meant abs
Many people say things they don't know or they blame something when they don't know where the true fault lies. If Windows crashes, do you blame Windows or do you blame the drivers that caused it? Likely, you would blame Windows instead of finding the cause of the problems and blaming the faulty driver or rootkit.
It has not been disabled nor will ever be disabled.You know that DirectX 8 and 9 support was disabled since the last version, and i don't think that anything changed!
Show me an example that fails in VS but doesn't in other IDEs.What are you talking about? IDEs like Dev C++ or Code::Blocks have no problem with these, only VS does!!
No, that's not it. I do believe that if you have a fair critique against the IDE, you should voice it. But voicing things that aren't true will only hurt it. How would you feel if I badmouthed your favorite IDE with false statements?I guess you don't want to end agreeing with me....
I use Visual Studio 2010 to compile DX8 code so your statement makes no sense.
"The Internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore
Can only speak from my usual set of libraries. After 2008 SP1, It finally started to behave. Before that it was particularly sensitive to wxWidgets. Removing some header references was enough most of the time to corrupt the database (Boost would in fact give me the least of troubles. I'm a little curious as to why it gives you problems).
But after 2008 SP1, I finally witnessed it behaving with wxWidgets, Boost, SQLite and PDCurses (the libraries I use the most). It can be days, weeks, before I get an IntelliSense database corruption. But I do get them, of course. Just not as frequent as before, when it could happen multiple times every day.
Last edited by Mario F.; 03-03-2010 at 01:02 PM.
Originally Posted by brewbuck:
Reimplementing a large system in another language to get a 25% performance boost is nonsense. It would be cheaper to just get a computer which is 25% faster.
Well, i guess i said too much, so i apologise if i offended your IDE guys
Sorry, but it sounds like you do not know why max and min pose the problem that they do. The problem is that <windows.h> defines macros named max and min that can conflict with std::max and std::min from <algorithm>. Now, a particular library implementation bundled with a compiler might provide a version of <windows.h> with a workaround for this problem, but this has little to do with the compiler per se, and even less to do with the IDE.
Look up a C++ Reference and learn How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
No offense taken. It simply seems that you have been led to believe things that aren't true.Well, i guess i said too much, so i apologise if i offended your IDE guys
Not really. You're just failing to give any concrete examples while everyone else is posting proof to the contrary of your statements.Well, i guess i said too much, so i apologise if i offended your IDE guys
Sipher says like he is giving alot of proof, on contrary he is giving alot of false
stuff... and no example is indeed a proof of a false statement.
Last edited by UltraKing227; 03-03-2010 at 02:47 PM.
Kind of strange you would continue to use something you dislike and consider defective.Well, i guess i said too much, so i apologise if i offended your IDE guys
Partially because they (vim and emacs) have both GUI and console variants (and if you can use one, you can use the other just as easily).
C programming resources:
GNU C Function and Macro Index -- glibc reference manual
The C Book -- nice online learner guide
Current ISO draft standard
CCAN -- new CPAN like open source library repository
3 (different) GNU debugger tutorials: #1 -- #2 -- #3
cpwiki -- our wiki on sourceforge
People here probably know I'm no MS fan, Windows, VS, MSN, or otherwise. But Sipher dude, those are some very mislead statements. VS with DX disabled? I'm confused, VS and the MS VC compiler are the target for DX. VS really isn't all that bad.. good debugger.. lots of options.. kind of slow.. obviously not cross-platform (although some geek probably hooked mingw up to it).
Not really. I still use Windows.
Warning: Have doubt in anything I post.
GCC 4.5, Boost 1.40, Code::Blocks 8.02, Ubuntu 9.10 010001000110000101100101
Visual Studio for C++ and C# work
Netbeans for Java (planning to move to Eclipse eventually, but when you get used to an IDE it's hard to move)
Komodo Edit for Python
Look guys, as i told you, what i said didn't come from me!! I've read it in sites AND books, heard it in other forums etc!.
OK, i admit that it was wrong to accuse Visual Studio for something without checking it myself! ( I don't even know how VS looks like! ) I'm not some bad person who just likes throwing rubbish to other IDEs!!!!!!!!
So, can we end this here? I understood my mistake and won't do it again!!
